window winder glass

[Daisy]

im trying to change the window winder mechanism in my 79 Kombi and i cant seem to find a way to get the glass itself out of the arm that holds it as i need to change it over if i pull to hard i risk breaking the glass does anyone have any ideas!!! my window is currently stuck down till i fix this help me please!!!!!!!

[kbskombi]

Hi check the how to do section, there is a bit on this subject, also when you replace the mechanism could you let me know how you go. I have just done the same but i can push the window down with my hands.... dont think this is right

[Daisy]

i had no problem re-attaching the winder mechanism to the door but the problem is the piece of glass is rusted/stuck in the arm that holds it i cant figure out how to get it out without breaking the glass. any ideas??? did u get your parts from the bus stop?

[77/kombi/surfer]

Daisy,
If you have the inside door trim off ,youll see that at the base of the glass there are 2 10mm bolts that are bolted into the metal frame at the base of the glass.
Undo those two and the glass comes free from the winder setup. Theres the same size bolts for the internal winder mechanism 6 in total.If you ondo them and pull the mechanism out, blow all the gunk out with an air gun, wash with petrol and a brush to clean old gease and dirt out.Use your winder handle to move the mechanisms inside wire up and down whilst cleaning , till its moving freely and your happy with the up down action. Regrease the mechanism and it should be as good as new.If doesnt get any improvement in the winding up and down action your up for a newie.
If the metal frame at the base of the glass is too far rusted or broken, you can buy new ones. This is a bit tricky to change over and may require the glass pulled out of the door. The glass is basically wedged into the rubber seal inside the metal bracket.You just slide a long narrow screw driver down between the glass and backet an slowly leaver each side up until it pops off. Take your time and be careful as you can get some glass in your eye.This is a good time to change over your doors inner and outer seals, baily channel and 1/4 vent felt as it hard to slide the glass out with out these removed first.
Hope this help you out.

cheers chuck

[Daisy]

thanks chuck! that def is some help the bit im having trouble with is getting the glass out of the rubber and the bracket it is very rusty i got in there with some lubricant and it made the seal nice and new again but i think it will just take time and wedging it out.
thanks for your help

[Kai]

try sticking a flat screwdriver down there and bending the metal away from it?? i dunno talking out my a** i think

[Daisy]

hahaha anything at this point is worth trying

[Dingostrategy]

Did you find a new part for the channel the window glass sits in (your rusty bit)?

[Daisy]

yes i got them through the bus stop they sell the rubber and the metal braket it sits in for quite a good price the bugger is just changing them over

[Dingostrategy]

Hooley Dooley, so they do! Yay for the Bus Stop - another job for me

[Daisy]

i ended up giving up on changing the braket i couldnt get the glass out without breaking it might be a job for the failfull mechanic hope yours goes better!

[Kai]

Can you take a picture of the problem area, I'm sure this can be resolved by you.

[Daisy]

i just poped out and took these of my so called finished job i guess im not totaly happy but it will do for now (rego check soon).
first one is of the whole door dah...

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second one is the two "bolts" for the arch in the arm. once i finally re bent the mechanism to fit in the door without blocking the glass from comming up, these to holes didnt meet but the rest did fine others have had this same problem with bus stop window mechanisms and have drilled new holes. I tried using a cable tie instead (i cant bare hurting my girl) and it worked a treat was a bit of a bugger to get it in there though!

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third is the unfortunate small gap i now have when the window is all the way up due to the bend in the arm not happy jan!! but at least it will stop the rain!



hope this is helpful to someone out there!

any other pics wanted im very happy to take and post.

[Kai]

Can you lower the window all the way down?

[Daisy]

yeah it goes down all the way easily its only the last few winds puting it up that are a bit tougher but still quite easy its just not straight dam it!

[Kai]

Sorry double post... I think it maybe the mechanism, or the arm that lifts it up. A picture will clarify..

[Daisy]

sorry cant quite figure it out are you talking about the metal braket the glass sits in?

[Kai]

yeh, wanted to see if it was sitting level in it or if the arm itself is bent.

[Daisy]

yeah the braket is on a very slight angle due to the bend in the arm thats the bit im not happy with!

[Kai]

can you take a picture with the window all the way down?