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1800 vs 2litre

Discussion in 'Engine & Transmission' started by Rosenrubes, Apr 9, 2015.

  1. Rosenrubes

    Rosenrubes Member

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    Having owned both over the years, I don't think I'm finding any noticeable difference in performance. Wot do u guys think ???
     
  2. 1500king

    1500king Well-Known Member

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    Agree....Completely...


    If they are both worn out, they are both bad.

    If they are both fresh, they are both fantastic!


    Anywhere in between is where all the complaints and perceptions are........
     
  3. Mellow Yellow 74

    Mellow Yellow 74 Active Member

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    I have an 1800 but I understand the 2000 had a little bit more power and a reasonable bit more torque up hills
     
  4. Alpal

    Alpal Moderator Staff Member

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    I'll go with the 'hard to tell the difference' having had 1800 and 2000 engines in Schmett at various times over the years.
     
  5. Grantus

    Grantus Well-Known Member

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    If it was wine......2 litres would give you almost 2 extra glasses, over 1.8 litres.

    May be also hard to tell the difference, for some......:rolleyes:
     
  6. Alpal

    Alpal Moderator Staff Member

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    1800 or 2000 I would probably still fall down!
     
  7. Grantus

    Grantus Well-Known Member

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    Got to share it...... and sad if two people miss out at a table of dinner guests....:(

    (Should have got that extra 200cc)
     
  8. Rosenrubes

    Rosenrubes Member

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    Wot about a 1700, being type 4 is it in the same league ?? I had a 1600 and it performed very poorly up hill
     
  9. saabman

    saabman Well-Known Member

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    Two extra glasses out of a bottle grant - thats very small glasses :cool:


    As for the 1700 1500kings answer would still apply, the variabilities would be huge and comparisons after 30 + years difficult to make.

    I've seen 1600's overtake my 1800 like I was standing still

    A comparison of 3 brand new vans would be great. ;)

    Just for the record I'm just about to start work on rebuilding a another kombi and it will be a 2litre
     
  10. Alpal

    Alpal Moderator Staff Member

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    lots of upgrade options for 1600. Agree stock 1600 slows on hills but will cruise all day.
     
  11. cbus

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    plus ya gotta rev it right up in each gear to catch the next.
    1800 and 2l run more on torque [well sort of :)]
     
  12. Mordred

    Mordred Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Remember also that the 2 litre gearbox has a slightly taller ratio, meaning it is better on the highway, but will make the power difference hard to "feel". You can tell a difference with a 2 litre on an 1800 box but really it is marginal, and I will rev a bit harder on the highway. You really don't want to be running that set up at 110 kmh all day.

    Adrian
     
  13. Alpal

    Alpal Moderator Staff Member

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    Had a 2 L with an 1800 box for a while and it was fine performance wise. Whatever you run if you want economy keep it under 100 and you will notice a big difference.
    If you want high performance you probably have the wrong vehicle. Whatever you drive you are limited to 110 by the speed limit or less by the other traffic. Must be a bummer in a Ferrari to have to drive in second gear!
     
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  14. gazman

    gazman Well-Known Member

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    My brother had a 73 with a 1700 many moons ago, and that performed as well as most 1800's I've seen too...
     
  15. old grey

    old grey Well-Known Member

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    Depends on the driver somewhat as well me thinks. Put someone in a bus they don't know and ask them what they think it is pushing them along. It'd be a guess at best between 1800 and 2000.
    Personally I've had both but my 1600 is by far a better, stronger, cheaper and easier engine to own and run.
    It drives my 69 bus better than the 2l drives my 76 bus ! Go figure.
     
  16. KahunaKombi

    KahunaKombi Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I went from 3 x 500ml to 2 x 375ml beers - don't feel any different just thirstier :p:eek::rolleyes:
     
  17. Alpal

    Alpal Moderator Staff Member

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    Tune the 2L! Having had both no comparison in performance!
     
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  18. old grey

    old grey Well-Known Member

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    Ha ha, note I didn't say faster.
    The 2l has no issues and goes extremely well. I just like the feel of the 1600 tp , drum brakes etc !!
    Hypothetically speaking I'd prefer the 69 1600 around town and the 76 2lt on the highway.
    I'm guessing cause the 69 may be a little lighter and a different gear ratio it may give the feel of better performance , but I am biased as it was my first VW.
     
  19. Mellow Yellow 74

    Mellow Yellow 74 Active Member

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    But there is a big difference between an 1800 air cooled engine and a 1900 water cooled engine. I have been driving the t3 daily and you can rely tell the difference (until you hit the first hill, then they are the same).
     

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