1976 T2 Westfalia OIL LEAKS

Discussion in 'New Members' started by Sahara Hilton, Dec 24, 2017.

  1. Sahara Hilton

    Sahara Hilton Member

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    Hello, Kombi Club. This is my first post.
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    Proud sole-owner of RHD 1976 Westfalia twin-carb. Kombi camper, imported from UK in 1979.
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    Now sadly in need of professional overhaul/rebuild, as front nearside piston oil-ring is shot.
    Burning oil, and now dripping a lot too - rather a shame to follow me.
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    Located in ACT region.
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    Rebuild / Mechanic recommendations sought, if allowed by Club.
    As "Sahara Hilton" is completely original*, I do want to keep her that way.
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    Thanks in anticipation.
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    * apart from the pneumatic windscreen washer !
     
  2. Barry

    Barry Well-Known Member

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    G'day and welcome

    Doesnt sound too drastic

    May be a simple as a re-ring

    A few of the ACT crowd will give you guidance on local mechanics

    Otherwise I will say give Mike a call at Custom Bugs and Busses
    1/21 Peachtree Road, Penrith NSW 2750
    Phone: 02 4722 9313

    http://cbbvw.com.au/

    Mike does Type 4 motors
     
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  3. Sahara Hilton

    Sahara Hilton Member

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    Thank you, Barry. Much appreciated. (And especially that it may not be "too drastic" ..)
     
  4. David H

    David H Well-Known Member

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    Hi Sahara Hilton,
    Welcome to Kombi Club. You've got one of the rarer campers in that Westfalia:D. Canberra member Grantus can put you onto a good mechanic in Canberra;).
    Cheers
     
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  5. oldman

    oldman Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Welcome to KC....
    x2 for Mike at CBB....
    He has a very busy workshop, so you could be waiting a while......but worth a call if nothing in ACT eventuates,
    Mike handles my bus......I wouldn’t go anywhere else. :cool:
    Cheers,
    Mark
     
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  6. Sahara Hilton

    Sahara Hilton Member

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    Thank you David H. Hope to hear from Grantus. Christmas - New Year period is holiday time, and there is no particular urgency, apart from the oil-use becoming too excessive !! We'd like to keep the "Sahara Hilton" stock-standard. Cheerio.
     
  7. Sahara Hilton

    Sahara Hilton Member

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    Thanks very much, Oldman. I note your second recommendation for Mike at CBB.
    We do not want any 'modifications' from stock-standard, but assuming your 'bus' is similar, that's really good to know.
    Travelling from Avalon to Penrith is also good. We can smoke our way down the Federal, Hume and M7 if needs be - with top-ups !!
    We do not mind joining a queue of like-minded customers, and allowing plenty of time for whaever is needed if it is to be done properly.
    Cheerio
     
  8. cbus

    cbus Well-Known Member

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    Welcome.
    Most likely you are correct and will need a proper rebuild.
    Be careful selecting engine builders.

    In meantime.
    Have you done oil pressure checks, compression and leak down test and checked endplay to see how worn engine is?
    What noises indicating wear?
    There's a remote possibility that the oil ring is gummed up and may respond to some ' dodgy' flushes to reactivate it.
    Many oil leaks are fixable relatively easily.
    May be a combination of all of above that is leading to high loss??

    Wishfull thinking but maybe worth establishing .
     
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  9. oldman

    oldman Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I’m runnng a stock 2ltr, dual carb. CJ engine & gearbox. Mike rebuilt both and the carbs. at the same time.
    It has never let me down and I do a lot of miles.
    Just remember when you shop around, with VW mechanics.....you get what you pay for.
    Cheap does not equal good.......ever.
    I cannot recommend Mike highly enough. He’s a straight talking perfectionist that will not do 1/2 a job.....it’s either properly done or not at all.
    Yup, a bit of a hike from Av. to Penrith......but worth every minute.
    Cheers,
    Mark
     
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  10. Sahara Hilton

    Sahara Hilton Member

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    This is a good opportunity to say Cheerio to everyone, safe Kombi motoring, and all the best for the New Year.
    We shall be getting the Sahara Hilton engine fixed, as and when we find a good mechanic with whom we can talk, and who we trust will listen to what we want them to do : Keeping her 1976 engineering as stock-standard as possible, being our main wish.
    Cheers to All KombiClub Members. Special Thanks to all the rostered-on holiday-season's Emergency Services folks, too.
     
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  11. Sahara Hilton

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    Thank you, cbus.
    That is good advice, and No we have not had those checks done of late.
    The compression when last tested was three similar and one poorer.
    Being air-cooled and oil-cooled, we have been careful always to keep the oil up.
    A Mechanic did suggest that the ring gaps may have become aligned, so that the front nearside cylinder had poorest compression as well as a really oily fouled-up sparkplug.
    We had the twin carbs redone by a Specialist because our fuel consumption (98 octane, always preferably) became excessive, and he suggested that we could use a hotter plug to burn off some fouling.
    That Mechanic said our doing sp would only be a temporary and unsatisfactory non-solution to the real (undiagnosed) problem.
    He was correct at least to that extent, apparently, now.
    A proper re-build is probably preferable to us, as we are not attracted to any (quick and dirty ?) asymmetrical engine repair.
    No bad noises as such, we believe. Starts readily enough, with one hotter plug installed (just one step hotter).
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    As "Sahara Hilton" is our favourite big toy, we definitely want to Avoid a bodgey re-build / re-builders.
    (Our last seriously long run took us to/from Perth in 2010, but that is another tale ..)
    All the best.
     
  12. Sahara Hilton

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    Mike sounds exactly who we want to deal with : and Penrith is not as far as others whom we've vaguely heard about.
    Not looking for cheap; nor for someone who seems not to listen to us.
    Owners of similar T4-mid-70s Kombis who have had serious work completed to their satisfaction, are exactly who we hoped to have contact with via KombiClub. Thanks again 'oldman' - evidently 'a Gent and a Scholar', and my Dad used to say.
     
  13. cbus

    cbus Well-Known Member

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    Agree with steps taken so far and advice being reasonable.
    No.3 cyl is often first to show problems.
    Although a gummed up oil ring can often be sorted satisfactorily, having a full reco with ancilleries also refurbished does make for reliability and less oily hands later, hopefully.

    If you do a drive in, drive out with Mike it will be set up and have initial cam break in done on dyno.
    I would go one further and rack up the next 500 or 1k km locally or in a short trip then have him do the next oil change and check.

    I like having builder/ installer do first couple of tunes if possible to guarantee no issues with warranties.

    Cheers.
     
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  14. Sahara Hilton

    Sahara Hilton Member

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    CBUS could you please elaborate a bit on your -
    "There's a remote possibility that the oil ring is gummed up and may respond to some ' dodgy' flushes to reactivate it.
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    Is that a supplementary product(s) added into the Engine Oil, or perhaps a shot/shots down the fouling-plug's-hole ?
    If it were to be done, when might it best be done ? Before a new Oil-change ??
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    Agree entirely with your suggestions on drive-in & -out merits, and with subsequent follow-up services, with Whoever best gets the whole job as soon as is mutually practicable next year, assuming that "flushes" may not be a proper solution.
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    Both Barry and Mark (oldman) favour Mike at CBB in Penrith - wondering, have you also set his Dyno spinning ?
    A longer distance from the Sunshine Coast ? Thanks again.

    PS still getting the hang of KC website - wondering whether this discussion is misplaced, so we've modified its title. Cheerio.
     
  15. Grantus

    Grantus Well-Known Member

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    Welcome to the Kombi Club! :)

    For your Kombi, I’d have to suggest you contact A&R Autos in Mitchell, to get an opinion.

    http://arvwrepairs.com.au/

    Enjoy they ride..........;)
     
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  16. Sahara Hilton

    Sahara Hilton Member

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    This 2_Litre twin-carb 1976 "Bay-window" has done about 270,000_Km.
     
  17. Sahara Hilton

    Sahara Hilton Member

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    Thank you, Grantus.
    We had understood that Angelo may have retired ?
    Appreciate any clarification re your recommending A&R workshop ?
     
  18. Grantus

    Grantus Well-Known Member

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    If Angelo has retired, his son will still be there, (and I can’t imagine Angelo being too far away).

    Unlike some other Canberra establishments, I haven’t heard any negative reports about A&R.

    My mechanic at Canberra VW Centre Tuggeranong, no longer works on air cooled, apart from his own.

    Which part of Canberra are you?
     
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  19. Sahara Hilton

    Sahara Hilton Member

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    Central. We too had used (Belconnen_) CVWC until they stopped doing air-cooleds.
    We've never had anything Major repaired really - just standard services.
    Swiss Motors re-pickled fuel tank soon after arrival : Algerian petrol !
    Carbs rebuilt at Michelago : faulty choke electrics.
    Thanks for A&R recommendation.
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    Your blue Caravelle twinset look immaculate : assume that they are Not air-cooled ( '88 & '91 )?
    Too technically, that amusing pulse-ECG seems to blip detail of mid-1980's high-up air intakes !
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    Thanks again.
     
  20. Wayne murray

    Wayne murray Well-Known Member

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    Welcome to Sahara Hilton to the KC ,Hope you kombi engine is sorted for you to enjoy it again.
     
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