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after market shifters

Discussion in 'Bay Tech Clinic' started by Mafti, Oct 6, 2005.

  1. Mafti

    Mafti New Member

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    Can anyone give me their opinion on the different shifters available to suit a bay.
    Empi vs Scat or others.The price difference between these two is $175.00

    Craig
     
  2. Split 1

    Split 1 New Member

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    The Scat one is supposed to be the better of the two.
    I cant comment from personal experiance as I have never used any of them.
    Ask Lobus, He has one.
    If you want an even better one, check out the Berg ones, really expensive.

    Dave
     
  3. beerdoc

    beerdoc Active Member

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    Got to agree with Dave

    Geneberg Shifters aer awesome but you pay

    I have one in my daughters 75L and its great

    Will be getting one for bus but that is along way of yet
     
  4. Menangler

    Menangler Member

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    I fitted one of the cheaper Empi shifters to a '74 twin cab that was shifting bad with a worn out stock shifter, and it works great.
    I have one on my Beetle too, and there is no way I would buy a Berg shifter, the Empi one works great, and it has the more user friendly ball, not the nasty "T" handle.
     
  5. kombibob

    kombibob New Member

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    i have a scat shifter in my new bay and it is great .
    love it. :D nice tight changes and no chance of accidentily changing down into reverse.
     
  6. kommodius

    kommodius Active Member

    Empi Quick Shift

    I'm about to fit an Empi Quick Shift to my '77 bus so I'll let you know how it went in about ten minutes ........................ yeah right!
     
  7. bay window rollers

    bay window rollers New Member

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    When its decided let me know which one to buy and where from , my shift sux !

    If anyone is realy board they can come up and fit it for me ???????????
     
  8. 77bay

    77bay Active Member

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    I've had an empi shifter in Genevieve for about 10 months now. Best accessory I ever bought, no more missed gears.
     
  9. bay window rollers

    bay window rollers New Member

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    is an empi shifter just the alloy plate in the shape of a diamond , with 2 bolts or is there a bit more to it ?

    I thought it was a bit of a mission to fit one ?
     
  10. Split 1

    Split 1 New Member

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    No that is just a short shift kit.
    It sits between the floor and normal base of the standard shifter.
    It just reduces the throw between gears.
    A problem with some of these is they can make them too close so instead of going from 1st to 2nd you might go 1st to 4th as they are so close.
    I had this problem when I fitted one to a beetle.

    Dave
     
  11. Mafti

    Mafti New Member

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    So other than getting a new shiny shifter that is tighter when changing gears will it give me the shorter throw that Im after or will the alloy plate that Bay window rollers is talking about do the same thing.
    Craig
     
  12. Split 1

    Split 1 New Member

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    To be honest , I think if you are not bothered about a nice shiny one, I would go the plate.

    I think Roy has them in stock.
    A hell of a lot cheaper to get less throw that way.

    Dave
     
  13. beerdoc

    beerdoc Active Member

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    Before you do anything check the nylon guide on the shift rod and make sure no play at rear (lock nuts have wire)

    If there is a mm play at the bottom there will be 10mm where the gear knob is

    Some one else might explain better
     
  14. Mafti

    Mafti New Member

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    Ive just fitted a quick shift kit ( the alloy plate) to the bay instead of a complete new shiny after market shifter. It works great, nice short throw and it took all of 10 minutes. It cost about $12.00 as opposed to the SCAT I was thinking of buying for $200.00.Im happy, money to spend elsewhere.

    Craig
     
  15. bay window rollers

    bay window rollers New Member

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    I think i need more then the quick shift kit, i have been quoted $130.00 parts and labour for the new bushes rear linkage and front ? Anyone think this is value ? Also should i combine this work with the empi quick shift plate ?
     
  16. beerdoc

    beerdoc Active Member

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    If they are going to fix problem sounds ok,but this will not shorten throw only take out some slop
     
  17. botcolon

    botcolon Member

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    I have a bad case of sloppy gears. I can't tell the difference between 4th and reverse!

    What parts are required to get it all brand new again, and how hard is it to change the rear bushes ( I moved the rear linkage into the gearbox and there was a fair bit of play.) The haynes manual suggests the gearbox must come out to replace/renew the rear linkage bush. Any advice would be welcomed.

    botcolon
     
  18. botcolon

    botcolon Member

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    might have to start a new thread :mad:
     
  19. compayo

    compayo New Member

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    The Berg shifter is good. If you haven't driven a bus with one in it, you can't compare. You definitley get to like the handle shape, and yes they come for RHD. Good for clutchless race shifts :lol:
     
  20. Split 1

    Split 1 New Member

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    After using my Berg shifter it would ne hard to drive with anythig else???
    Just ask anyone who was in Big Daves split driving back from the golf club at Mt Gambier!!!!

    Dave
     

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