Bay Window Fuel Gauge Access

Discussion in ''How To' & 'Handy Hints'' started by ttmck, Mar 18, 2007.

  1. kommodius

    kommodius Active Member

    It's literally a 15 minute job Marty.
    Get the cover, measure twice, cut once. Job done! It's just another access panel.
    Next replacement takes 5 minutes.

    Ray & da Boyz
     
  2. felixqld66

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    Just though I would throw in another option for this great idea. Here are some pics of in the back of our lowlight panel van you can get the watertight hatches from boat chandlerys even BCF I think.

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    Very easy access via the screw top not that you need to get in there very often. :D
     
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  3. melissa

    melissa Administrator Staff Member

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    That looks very neat.
     
  4. kommodius

    kommodius Active Member

    Now, THAT'S sexy!

    Ray & da Boyz
     
  5. sosage

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    BCF here I come, Wow looks so nice and will be glad to read my fule guage :D
     
  6. saabman

    saabman Well-Known Member

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    I just did my sender in the '77 bay and was able to get it out with out removing the tank. There was JUST enough clearence to tilt it out and then move it along the top of the tank to the left and the.

    I did have the engine out but didnt want to pull the tank as it was full of fuel.

    Bernie
     
  7. Skip

    Skip New Member

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    I did this job today, complete with the screw hatch from my local BCF (about $15). I have a VDO fuel gauge set in the spare hole in my dash panel, I suspect that the fuel sender broke quite a few years ago and the VDO gauge was installed in an effort to fix it. The wiring at the back is what you'd expect from 30 years of DIY auto-electricians, and it's a bit out of my depth to set everything back as it should be. There's a whole lot of electrical tape back there...
    Anyway - I cut the hole and installed the hatch (works a treat, I recommend this modification), removed the old sender and put in the new one. I wired it up, and...now the gauge reads, but reads backwards. I didnt drain the tank before I installed the new sender, but just testing the sender wired up, but not installed - when it's in the "full" position, the gauge reads empty, and when it's in the empty position, the VDO gauge reads full. Weird. I'm thinking the problem isn't in the sender, at this stage, but rather in the wiring behind the gauge. I'll keep investigating tomorrow, but if I have to wait until I can get her to a proper auto-electrician to figure out the mess that is my front dash, I dont mind reading the gauge backwards for now.
     
  8. Doc

    Doc Active Member

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    Skip the majority of VDO fuel gauges are not meant for VW fuel senders (10 full 75 ohm empty). You can buy a specific VDO for a volkswagen but I had to order it from the states, The common VDO gauge is for a GM I think.
    Rob
     
  9. Skip

    Skip New Member

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    That would certainly explain it! I had wondered if these things were universally standardised. I'd like to get my stock standard fuel gauge working again and keep that spare spot in my dash free for a head temperature gauge. Maybe pop in a $150 clock ;)
     
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  10. sosage

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    Hey all! I was just wondering what would be the problem with my kombi is fuel guage or sender...The needle on the fuel guage rapidly moves from side to side and never is still so i can never tell how much fuel I have. I usually just fill up on tuesdays hehe. If it's the sender Ill try this, if its the guage what should I do? Thanks sos.
     
  11. Doc

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    I would suspect the voltage stabliliser behind the instrument gauge itself.
     
  12. sosage

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    Ah okay, is that just like a fuse or is it something expensive? Also would that have something to do with my taco being out and a bit unstable or is that to do with the wheel and the cable? where would I get these things fixed? Thanks Doc and all, Sos.
     
  13. Doc

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    Sosage
    Tachos are not standard, if its all your gauges then my thoughts would be a bad earth connection (its the common thread)
     
  14. saabman

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    My moneys with the Doc on that one!!
     
  15. sosage

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    Guages and eletrics are not my forte, so would I be going to a auto eletrician for this job?
     
  16. SunnyJim

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    is it the fuel hatch cutout same for lowlights as well as late bays?

    Sunnyjim will have to go under the knife soon (actually jigsaw)

    The fuel gauge now reads empty ,turning the ignition switch on i can see the needle ping quickly to the left .

    I will look at the wiring on the dash but I assume this sounds like a sender problem?


    Now I read this great thread and will do the fuel sender hatch

    Are the dimensions the same for lowlights as well as late bays?
    there were also diffeent opinions on the cut out dimensions


    can someone who has done one let me know (especially on a low light)

    thx
     
  17. grumble

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    You can access the sender wire on the chassis near the R/H/R wheel,If you earth this wire briefly with the ignition on the gauge should go towards full if it is the sender unit,if not the problem is in the dash.
     
  18. SunnyJim

    SunnyJim Well-Known Member

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    lowlight

    hey grumble

    what are u saying ? are u saying I can access the sender wire somehow without cutting the hole?
    Or do u mean only after I cut the hole and see the sender?

    I NEED TO KNOW IF THE DIMENSIONS OF THE FUEL SENDER ACCESS ARE THE SAME FOR LOWLIGHTS AS LATE BAYS . I think most of these posts are for late bays .I DON'T WANT TO CUT A HOLE THE FIND OUT IT IS NOT THERE

    thx paul
     
  19. Alpal

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    ARE YOU SHOUTING PAUL!!!!!!
     
  20. SunnyJim

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    not shouting just waving

    alpal

    not shouting just waving.

    love to hear from anyone who has cut the fuel sender hole in a lowlight.

    I will try to cut the hole this weekend and want to make sure those dimensions of where to cut apply to lowlights as well as bays

    I don't want to re-enact the gofer scene from caddyshack and have holes everywhere.
     

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