Bernard the 83 T3

Discussion in 'Members Rides' started by Dapom, Aug 23, 2016.

  1. cbus

    cbus Well-Known Member

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    Been a few issues up our way of multiple car failures from contaminated fuel with woolies being main culprit but as you say, likely an individual servo issue.
    Usualy sand and water . likely degraded storage tanks or tanks brought back on line too quick after fills.
    Think the brains trust indicated that sealing internally with liquid sealers in t3 tanks was problematic?? . pity
     
  2. Barry

    Barry Well-Known Member

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    reckon it has more to do with the grommets on the top of the tank letting water and crap in

    I would be putting a new tank in

    That is what I did a few months back and not regretted it
     
  3. Dapom

    Dapom Well-Known Member

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    The grommets etc are all in good condition and sealed. The only crap in my tank was rust....not that that's a good thing lol
    Won't be replacing the tank as yet....as I say this ones only been in there 5yrs. Going to treat the rust and see how it goes. From looking at the tank there was more than enough rust debris in there to block the internal strainer and so cause my fuel starvation issues. Will see how it goes when it's re-installed :)
     
  4. Luckyphil

    Luckyphil Well-Known Member

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    Check the grommets in the expantion tanks in the wheel arches as that is where most water gets into the tank.
     
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  5. Dapom

    Dapom Well-Known Member

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    The passenger side grommet is all good...drivers side isn't.....mainly as the tank isn't there lol the hoses to it have been capped by PO. Resnort has one for me I've just gotta get over to him to get it :)
     
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  6. KahunaKombi

    KahunaKombi Super Moderator Staff Member

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    More likely service station tanks full of crap and needing a clean/service/replace :confused::eek::rolleyes:o_O
     
  7. Resnort

    Resnort Active Member

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    As much as id go looking at grommets etc too.
    My bus had almost every bung broken or not there, holes in the top, breather tanks 5cm full of dirt and road grit........but when i cleaned the tank to fix and refit after 4 years sitting and rotting, it wasn't very dirty at all. Just lucky I guess.

    Id assume its a combo of the "new" tank and shite fuel somewhere along the line.
     
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  8. KahunaKombi

    KahunaKombi Super Moderator Staff Member

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    With the grommets etc for the fuel tank, lines, breather, filler etc they may look ok BUT the only way to be 100% sure is to fit a re-seal kit and do the roll over tanks & check the valves @ the same time ...... seeing the tank is out for a clean go all out and not worry about having to drop it again.
    I think Mick Motors may have a re-seal kit ...... here's where I went when I did the SC some years back http://www.van-cafe.com/fuel-tank-reseal-parts-c743 or http://www.van-cafe.com/fuel-tank-reseal-parts
     
  9. Dapom

    Dapom Well-Known Member

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    I've replaced all the pipework for the breathers and made up an aluminium tube for the balance tube. All grommets were good except for the one on top of passenger side expansion tank which had been stuck in on gasket sealant....bit pointless when the tank was smashed lol luckily all pipes from the expansion tank had been plugged by mud wasps so no crap from there in the tank lol
    Really was just rust debris that came out. Did final flushes with petrol this eve and no more crap came out :) now I just need both expansion tanks and the metal pipes to the drivers side tank and for the first time since I've owned it all that stuff will be good!!
     
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  10. AC-T3

    AC-T3 Well-Known Member

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    ..... recycled by the PO rather than buy a real new one. Even filled with sea water a new tank should last 5 years!
     
  11. Dapom

    Dapom Well-Known Member

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    Its definitely not a vw tank and I have the receipt here for supply and fit of new tank. It's just a shitty repro is the issue. Hopefully with the refurb I've done, the expansion tanks installed and all pipework sorted (which will allow the tank to be filled lol) it'll last a bit better on this installation. Oh and no e10! Not that I have but PO did.
     
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  12. KahunaKombi

    KahunaKombi Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Hey Chris, dare I ask how things are going :eek::rolleyes:
     
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  13. peter1000

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    Just read this post from end to end and recommend a good psychiatrist as you could not possibly go through all this and remain sane however I now don't feel bad about my issues
    Elvis used to shot his problem cars maybe worth a try
    Hope you have a happier new year and look forward to reading more of this drama
    appears never ending could be a great soapy and I for one would watch it as it would help future problem solving
     
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  14. Dapom

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    Hey guys :) well update time is upon us and.....it’s all good news!!!! Woohoo!!! I think my perseverance is finally paying off! I can say this fairly safely as I’m in Thailand so Bernard can’t hear me lol
    After 2 rounds of tank removal/flushing and a couple of bottles of fuel system cleaner that issue seems to be sorted now. Has also got rid of the random burps n farts that the bus has been doing since day one....wish I’d looked at it earlier on!! I reckon ive racked up 7/800k’s now without issue and am finally trusting him :)
    Have also performed a few other upgrades/fixes over the last few months. I’ve built a new bed box which allows access to engine bay without having to lay the rear seats down and easier access to the various storage compartments.
    Bodo (resnort) bought a wrecker bus which has yielded a couple of bits. Firstly the Spring for the hold open catch on the slider so my door no longer tries to kill me when parked on a hill which is a bonus! I also grabbed the speedo from that same bus so I now have a working odometer and trip meter :) the last project completed just before I came on hols was to cut the runners off my drivers seat and reposition them. The bus came with Kia carnival front seats which are very comfortable but when they were welded up (by PO) the seat base was tilted slightly (5mm) forwards making it feel like it was trying to pitch you out when driving and resulted in a hunched over the steering wheel driving position lol it was also too high for me (I’m 6’2”) which meant the sun visor was always st the top of my vision. I managed to lower the seat by about 10mm at the front and 20 at the back which doesn’t sound like a lot but has made a massive difference to the driving comfort. It also means that the shifter extension I bought shortly after buying the bus now makes sense and so is now installed :)
    Now, I appreciate that a few of you guys are Facebook-phobic, but there is an awesome group on there called T3 owners Australia. It started small earlier in the year by Carl in Redlands bay and now has over 600 members. We went on a camp out to Canungra Showgrounds a few weeks back which was short notice but still great fun even with only 7/8 buses there. A good starting point :) really great camping spot as well.
    When I return from hols I’m going to be picking up an ex-Optus deep cycle battery (100AH gel) from a friend for use as my house battery in the bus so that’s going to be my next project :) my step son is also looking to buy a cheap van (probs jap) for camping with his GF so building a fit out for that will also be on the agenda.
    It’s really refreshing to finally be able to enjoy and trust my bus :) am very much looking forward to a few camping trips and general pottering about over the Xmas period :)
     
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  15. David H

    David H Well-Known Member

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    Great outcome..Dapom. Perseverance always pays off:D.

    Totally relate to this:D. Regaining our confidence in the vehicles we know so well;).
    Good luck for S-I-L purchase. May it go well;)
    Cheers
     
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  16. Grantus

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    Great progress! :)

    I’m not FB phobic, just that I prefer a forum like KC, where valuable info doesn’t disappear, and the info provided is of a moderated quality...;)
     
  17. Dapom

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    Thanks mate :)
    Yeah I agree that FB isn’t a great long term resource...once a thread has been ‘used’ it certainly seems to disappear into the ether never to be seen again lol on that particular page there is a good core of knowledgeable people who have the same ethos of passing on information without judgement. There are of course still the cocks bouncing around but Carl and his wife work hard as moderators to make sure they don’t kick around for too long ;) oh and posting pics is easy lol
     
  18. KahunaKombi

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    Smiles a plenty Chris :eek: ...... great to hear Bernard is behaving ;)
    Amazing how a few mm in the seating position makes a huge differenceo_O ...... know it from getting nils to take on the Type3 Seat Adjuster Cams being CAD'd and CNC milled and testified also by Terry (Wombatventures) :cool::D
     
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  19. Syncro27

    Syncro27 Well-Known Member

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    I had similar issues to you when I bought my 89 2wd caravelle.

    PO had removed the passenger side expansion tank along with coiling up the breather hose and a tank full of rust and petrol sludge as it had sat for a long time (6 years) without any use in a paddock. It had this resin type sludge in the tank which meant the fuel gauge would signal that I had the reserve tank plus a bit in it when there was no real fuel left - just sludge so it ran out of fuel and sucked in some sludge which clogged up one of my injectors.

    All fixed now with a replacement factory tank, lots of new seals and expansion tank plus new roll over valves and seals.

    Those metal tanks are trouble - I love my syncro tank as its plastic and clearly wont rust! :D
     
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  20. Resnort

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    Chris. Bus stop? you coming? Nils and I are booked in, would be good to see some more T3's
     

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