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Camping at Lake Mungo

Discussion in 'Camping Australia' started by JaneC, May 15, 2018.

  1. JaneC

    JaneC Active Member

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    Hello all,
    sorry to slip this sideways but I couldn't work out how to create a new post! Anyway, wondering about thoughts on camping at Lake Mungo. Should I take Dot the Kombi? Apparently it's okay for 2WD as long as it doesn't rain. But the dust? And its about a 14 hour drive. Am I being too precious and as long s she has had a service, got my spare tyre, fuel and water...?! I'm going with a crew of painters but they'll all be in their 4wd's. :)
     
  2. oldman

    oldman Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Kombis were made for travelling! Do it....;)
    Dust won’t be an issue unless it’s that thick you can’t see through it...air intakes are up high.
    These are very capable vehicles on the dirt, with ample clearance....lots of stories about stock kombis getting into 4x places easily with sensible driving approach.
    Don’t know about your destination, I’m sure others will chime in.
    Enjoy the experience.....the more you get out there, the more you’ll see :cool:
    Cheers,
    Mark
     
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  3. JaneC

    JaneC Active Member

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    Thanks Mark, that sounds good to me. After all, that is why I got her... to camp and go on adventures in style! It was recommended I hire a 4WD (by people that don't know Kombis' I might add...) and then I started thinking of how well set up she is... on board water, fridge on self charging battery... comfy bed... and the gear the others will have to lug around and, well, we know what its like. Pull up, pop the top. Voila!
     
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  4. Alpal

    Alpal Moderator Staff Member

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    My observation is that 4WD vehicles rarely use 4WD. Going with others is good security. Maybe add a snatch strap to your kit or check with your friends if they have recovery gear.
     
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  5. JaneC

    JaneC Active Member

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    Thank heaps. Good idea. I'll research a 'snatch strap'! I'm just about to get 4 new tyres as well and my tyre man said the ones that are on her are a bit light on? I have TOYO Touring Radials 800 Plus, P185/75R's?
     
  6. deeksy62

    deeksy62 Active Member

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    It will be dry up there, no rain or not much this year, so it will be dusty. What it may mean is a pretty badly corrugated road in and out and around the park itself.
    Haven't been for a while, but the road last time was pretty poor, we were in our Range Rover, so not too bad, but my kombi rattles on the freeway, so the corrugations would be horrendous!!!
    It is a great park though, enjoy.

    Steve
     
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  7. cbus

    cbus Well-Known Member

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    I don't know the road but have taken kombis on rough fire trails, deep dry sand beaches, corrugated bush tracks.
    Kombis have a good suspension for corrugated roads. Better than older 4x4 except range rover.
    For sand , even stock tyres are not too bad with pressures dropped as needed.
    Generaly low 20s unless realy bad then 18psi.
    Lowest 12psi for recovery if stuck.
    Pump up again ASAP and very low speeds , probably max 50km.hr at 18psi and recovery only at less.
    And only as much and when needed.
    Correct rating passenger tyres give more comfort and flotation.
    A set of snow chains deals with slippery clay but ensure they have clearance if running wide tyres.

    If advice is a lot of sand and low pressure running then I would run wider tyres for sand and 2 spares for harsh low pressure damage potential.
    If 2wd is considered ok I don't think conditions can be too bad
     
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  8. Grantus

    Grantus Well-Known Member

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    Please also be sure that someone is educated about vehicle recovery attachment points. ;)
     
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  9. cbus

    cbus Well-Known Member

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    Don't have front windows open while driving in dust as its a low pressure area and sucks dust in from rear.

    New tyres.

    You don't need light truck but if going passenger ( my preference) look for xl or c rated.
    Stock load rating is 94.
    If going passenger then legally need to go up 10%. ie 97 load rating.

    There are a few passenger options at 99.
    Passenger is my pick as long as not heading into gibber or big risk of sidewall staking territory.
    They flex better for sand but some Lt also good.

    Your ,185 should be 80 series.
    Stock size is 185R14 which is an 80 series sidewall height.

    If intending to do some off road in sand then taller and wider with flexible sidewall are the preferences.

    Stock tyre OD ( overall diameter ) is 650mm.
    Going to a bigger tyre of around 668 gives a slight gain in footprint and is easily managed in a sound stock 1800 and 2l motor under all normal driving.
    Probably notice it slightly in hills with a loaded camper.

    Options are 195R 14.
    (Equal 195 80 14.)
    205 75 14. Preferred but limited options in tyres.
    205 is good for road and sand.

    Don't go larger ( 215 ) on a 5.5 x 14 rim ( stock)

    I have had a bay over the softest sand on north beach noosa with 195.75.14.
    Deep churned up parts needed someone standing on back bar and pressures around 18 psi.
     
  10. Wayne murray

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    @JaneC you won't have any trouble getting in there with a kombi,been there done that. It's been a while since I was there but my father was there with in the last 5 years with a kombi. The road in from Balranald wasn't bad but the road out towards Mildura was badly corrugated:eek:.As the road would changed with seasonal conditions ,as long as your vehicle is well maintained as mentioned above :rolleyes: you be OK, just drive to suit the condition of the road. Advice if you got the room take extra fuel just in caseo_O.We have never needed it but it will depend on how much driving while you are in there. As it is a 300km round trip not including how much you do in Mungo NP itself. You also wouldn't be driving at cars optimum conditions to get the maximum fuel economy.:)
    P.S take plenty winter clothing it will be cold there. There are fireplaces and you can get wood.:D
     
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  11. cbus

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    Assuming you are sticking with stock rims.?
    Having trouble with Bob Jane site but jax gives some options.
    I know there are passenger options as I have researched them previously.

    https://www.jaxtyres.com.au/tyres/sizes/14-inch/205-75r14
    Some of these avail in other sizes . check the site. All Lt have high load ratings.

    My view on these LT options.

    Achilles.
    Wouldn't try cheap unproven brands. Often such can have poor quality control and balance or delamination issues.
    Especially if hammered at low pressures.

    Vantra LT 18.
    Show good grip in category in braking tests.
    Found 195R14 a bit flexy in sidewalls compared to passenger 195/75.14 but extra pressure fixes that. lt often need the pressure.
    Suggest for hwy, 34 f 42-44 r. For 195R14.
    or much prefer the 205/75.14 for your purpose.

    Bridge stone 613V.
    Wouldn't touch for any use.

    Goodyear durasport.
    Interested for someone to try these.
    Claims( as all companies do and worthless usualy ) good wet performance.
    The pattern is similar to what I like on road tyres to give good directional stability.

    Michelin Agilis.
    Old type were slippery.
    Claims of new ones being better.
    Don't know.?
     
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  12. Wattie

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    JaneC, If we are available we'd be glad to keep you company :)
     
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  13. cbus

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    https://www.bobjane.com.au/tyres/

    Hopefully selected options show up.
    205/75.14 options preferred.
    Some ignored as less favoured. Some with good reason, others unknown and unlikely candidates at a punt given better known ones avail.

    The hankook is not suitable loading but has a 205/70.14 with 99xl ? Load.
    Bit small but should be a reasonable tyre for anyone tolerating the small
    ( 543mm from memory )
    Mid range test results.

    Think toyo also do a 205/75.14.
    But square edges and stiff walls if looking for general purpise plus sand tyre.
     
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  14. chris taylor

    chris taylor Well-Known Member

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    You got it J C, go for it .
     
  15. David H

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    Hi JaneC.
    Have a great trip & be prepared to lower tyre pressures for the terrain you may encounter before you get bogged;)!!
    Kombi will climb/surmount most things especially if the front sway bar is disconnected:).
    So my 2 bobs worth is lower pressures in tyres & if undulating terrain disconnect the front sway bar...2 bolts:cool:. Helps keep the wheels connected:cool::D to the ground.
    Cheers
     
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  16. AC-T3

    AC-T3 Well-Known Member

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    All good advice above. Drive to suite the conditions and your level of confidence/comfort. And don't forget "when in doubt, DON'T."
     
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  17. JaneC

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    Thanks Steve, corrugations are horrible. I'm getting Dot serviced and was thinking of slightly larger tyres... but it may mean for a harder ride if the corrugations are bad. :)
     
  18. JaneC

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    Thanks Cbus! I've also had a wonderful learning curve on tyre differences! :) It never even occurred to me about changing the rims, but I'm sure that won't be needed. Thank you for the great info.
     
  19. cbus

    cbus Well-Known Member

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    Changing rims brings in a number if additional things to look at.
    Gives a better choice of tyres and not a major issue but a set if slightly bigger tyres in your vw rims will be adequate for most situations you will find yourself in.
    If you foresee needing better grip in grass if dirt trails we can run through that option but it will be best served with slightly larger rums ti give tyre selection.
     
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  20. JaneC

    JaneC Active Member

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    Hello Geoff and Irene!, that is such a lovely offer! I will be having a meeting with the painters soon and will know more but there is also thoughts of starting at Mutawinji then moving over to Lake Mungo. I just had a quick look at the map and if that is the case I'll be coming via Dubbo and across to Wilcannia. If I go straight o Lake Mungo as @Wayne murray suggested, I'll be coming in through Balranald which sounds like it may be better. I'll get back to you. Always lovely to have a kombi escort!
     

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