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Changing the oil

Discussion in 'T3 & T4 Tech Help Clinic' started by bilckster, Apr 8, 2010.

  1. bilckster

    bilckster Member

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    Hi Guys,

    Just a few questions about the good old oil change.

    I'm trying to maintain an oil change every 5000km to keep my '82 air cooled microbus running smoothly. In the past I've used a filter from Steve at Mackeller VW in Brookvale, NSW which is a German made filter by the looks of things and for oil it's always been Castrol GTX 20W-50.

    I'm now not so close to Brookvale and was wondering if an oil filter from Autobarn, Supercheap or Repco would be just as good or should I go to the effort to get a German made filter? If so, where can I find one in Newtown, Marrickville, Inner West area in Sydney. Prefer to avoid Wolfsburg Motors in St Peters if possible (seperate 4 month old issue that has still not been resolved.)

    Is the Castrol Oil fine to use for this vehicle? I read a post by 1500king mentioning that Mobil 1 V-Twin is better (see http://forums.kombiclub.com/showthread.php?t=21881&highlight=oil+change)

    I also put an Nulon engine flush through it before changing the oil and add some Nulon Lifter Free to the new oil. Does this sound about right?

    Any other recommendations to keep things running smooth?
     
  2. Anna Bay 73

    Anna Bay 73 Member

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    How long is your dip stick?

    Hi, I just changed the oil in my 82 aircooled. I have used 20-50 oil in the past(only had the van less than a year), but the VW specialist at North Belmont near Newcastle recommended 15-40 for anything with hydraulic lifters. My lifters are noisy, so I have tried Shell Helix 15-40. I carefully measured 3.5 litres of oil for the fill, the oil capacity as per the workshop manual. After running the motor, I find the oil reached the low mark on the dip stick. I know the motor is not original and was recondition around 5 years ago. Maybe the wrong dip stick is in the thing. This is a bit personal, but how long is your dip stick? Mine measures 543mm from where the rubber stopper at the top rests on the tube to the low mark.:lol:
     
  3. gazman

    gazman Well-Known Member

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    Rofl mines way longer :lol: :lol:
    seriously but, does that 3.5lt include what the filter holds, and did you fit a new one? The difference might equate to the volume of the filter. I usually fill the filter with oil as much as possible when fitting a new one to avoid large air pockets in your oil galleries on startup. I think you should be ok to fill to the top mark on your dipstick, someone with a type 4 could confirm your dipstick is right (mines a wasserboxer).
     
  4. bilckster

    bilckster Member

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    Haha, I normally don't divulge this information but my dipstick measures 520mm from top to low mark and 545 from top to end. I'm measuring from the bit at the top where the metal stick stops and the rubber starts. I'd assume it's practically the same.

    That makes my job tricky. No I don't know which oil to use? 15-40 or 20-50?

    What about filters? Will a filter from Repco, Autobarn, Supercheap do the trick or should I go one better?
     
  5. bilckster

    bilckster Member

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    OK, so I've done a bit more research.

    Filter - Mann, Hengst or Mahle seem to be the way to go. Where can I get them from in Sydney, preferably inner west?

    Oil - Still not sure which I should be going for? 20w-50 or 15w40? Anyone had experiences with both in a T3?
     
  6. Anna Bay 73

    Anna Bay 73 Member

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    dipstick length measuring rules

    Blikster, to complicate matters, my rubber stopper on the top of the dip stick has bits broken off at its end closest to the front of the car, this is why I need you to remeasure your dipstick from the low mark to the start of the rubber collar ie the face of the collar that presses on the top of the dipstick tube. As i said before, mine measures 543mm. Much more talk of dipstick length and rubber and these posts will be censored! And to clarify, I did change the filter, added the 3.5litres and drove the car for half an hour and the oil level just reached the low mark.
     
  7. bilckster

    bilckster Member

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    Anna, I've remeasured my dipstick (My wife is starting to think I have insecurity issues). ;)

    This time I measured it from the very tip to the very top of the ring pull. End to End. this way we can be certain to avoid any more confusion. It measures 605mm from tip of the bottom to top of ring pull.

    hope this helps.
     
  8. Anna Bay 73

    Anna Bay 73 Member

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    dipstick length

    Hi, thanks for sticking with this thread. Yes, mine is the same overall length, with the low mark 24 mm from the end. I would have expected that after filling with 3.5l after an oil and filter change that the level should reach the high mark. Anyway, the wife and I are heading to Melbourne in the kombi tomorrow for a three week holiday. Thanks again.
     
  9. grumble

    grumble Well-Known Member

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    If your vehicle has been running happily on Castrol oil i suggest you keep on using it,often if you swap brands the motor will suddenly use a bit due to different additives etc.I use 15w40 semi synthetic oil with the German filters in preference to auto shop supplied ones.Tooley Imports in James st Hornsby have been supplying VW aftermarket parts to both the trade and retail for over 40 years,their prices are reasonable and the staff very knowledgable.Cheers Les
     
  10. jon ward

    jon ward Active Member

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    I use Ryco oil filters with no ill effects.

    As for engine oil 20w-50 or the Mobil V twin
     
  11. Dubman

    Dubman Well-Known Member

    I run Ryco filters too, Easily available from good auto parts stores, ie: Peps, Burson, Repco. Being that I also sell them I know they have passed just about every test the Auto Manufactures throw at them. never had a dud yet. stay clear of Phoenix and sukawa filters tend to be a bit thin in my experience
     

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