check list when buying print & take it with you

Discussion in 'Buying and selling help' started by ttmck, May 19, 2006.

  1. ttmck

    ttmck Super Moderator Staff Member

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    QUESTIONS TO ASK YOURSELF:
    Why am I buying this car
    Will it be my commute vehicle
    What service and support is locally available hey you have the kombi club
    Will I be driving it year-round or summer only
    Do I want to work on the car more than driving it
    Am I willing to be a LOYAL KOMBI CLUB MEMBER haha gotcha now
    :)
    Always inspect/take delivery of the vehicle in the broad daylight,
    never in the evening/night or in the rain.

    Arrange to inspect the bus at a time when the engine will be stone
    cold so you can hear any abnormal noises and check how it starts
    A general guide to reading exhaust smoke:
    Black smoke = unburned fuel
    Blue smoke = burning oil

    When the engine is warm hold you foot on the throttle for at lease 3 mins and check if any blue smoke is evident out of the exhaust ALSO AT THE SAME TIME PUT THE HEADLIGHTS ON AND SEE IF THEY GET BRIGHTER WHEN REV'S INCREASED QUICKEST WAY TO SEE IF THE CHARGING SYSTEM IS WORKING

    Try and find out some history on the vehicle
    eg original owner books reciepts and repairs maintenance records , parts catalogs, club newsletters
    Any interesting history

    EXTERIOR WALK-AROUND:
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    OK Not-OK
    ___ _____ Check door edges and underside for rust/tears
    ___ _____ Check doors/hinges for stress/tears
    ___ _____ Doors/hoods open/close freely? Rubs?
    ___ _____ Driver's door / passenger door / sliding door / rear hatch /
    ___ _____ Is anything obviously broken
    ___ _____ Are lights cracked, dented or broken
    ___ _____ Car sits level? (view from all sides)
    ___ _____ Are bumpers dinged Loose Level
    ___ _____ Paint OK All panels same shade Cracks Overspray on rubbers
    ___ _____ Any of the trim or hubcaps rusty or missing
    ___ _____ New paint Why Any body ripples
    ___ _____ Rust/repair on body
    ___ _____ Any bog or filler use a (magnet)
    ___ _____ Lift rubber mat in front door step. Rusty Holes
    ___ _____ Rubber parts and seals condition Cracked
    ___ _____ tools eg jack and spare tyre
    ___ _____ Tires: Tread Bulges Cracks rim condition

    UNDERSIDE floor pan: GET UNDER THE KOMBI
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    Shine a torch under the vehicle
    Start at front of bus and work back.

    OK Not-OK

    ___ _____ Have friend turn steering wheel: does it feel tight or loose on
    one side
    ___ _____ Look at underside of front door steps, body lip forward of
    ___ _____ front wheels: rust?
    ___ _____ Any underbody/floor pan rust
    ___ _____ Any frt panel or wheel well rust Check particularly in
    ___ _____ entire vertical area immediately behind each front wheel. Pay
    ___ _____ special attention to inside of wheel arches panels, sliding doors/bottom of doors
    ___ _____ Are main frame members rusted Jack points
    ___ _____ Is heater hose from heater boxes in place and intact
    ___ _____ Anything dented Bent Welded
    ___ _____ Any evidence of ground clearance damage
    ___ _____ Any leaks from transmission or differential
    ___ _____ Constant velocity joint boots
    ___ _____ Any oil leaks from engine
    ___ _____ All lower engine tin in place
    ___ _____ condition of heater boxes muffler
    ___ _____ Look for rust under battery tray(s).
    ___ _____ Tire wear even
    ___ _____ All shocks & struts damp OK Any leaks

    IN ENGINE BAY COMPARTMENT
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    OK Not-OK

    ___ _____ Anything broken or leaking
    ___ _____ Is engine clean Any rust
    ___ _____ All engine compartment seals in place
    ___ _____ Check oil level. AND COLOUR

    ___ _____ alt . gen Belt cracked
    ___ _____ Fuel lines stiff cracked wet

    INTERIOR/ELECTRICAL:

    OK Not-OK

    ___ _____ Is anything broken Torn
    ___ _____ is wiring a mess under the dash any thing dangling
    ___ _____ Headlining ok
    ___ _____ Carpets OK rubber matting ok
    ___ _____ Rust, under the carpets
    ___ _____ all lights accessories work lenses cracked warning lights
    ___ _____ Seats dirty or torn check if sagging
    ___ _____ Do both seats adjust seat belts work
    ___ _____ Dash cracked
    ___ _____ Windshield cracked Chips
    ____ ____ open all windows and then close them same with doors /locks

    (CAMPER ONLY):

    ___ _____ All cabinetry in good condition? All doors/drawers lock closed
    ___ _____ securely?
    ___ _____ stove / fridge operation
    ___ _____ canvas in roof torn and roof opens / closes ok
    ___ _____ Camping lights work
    ___ _____ LPG cylinder in date
    ___ _____ Check all curtains.
    ___ _____ Sliding door runs smoothly Latches/unlatches
    ___ _____ Sink pump works


    TEST DRIVE
    ___ _____ take note of km reading odometer needle operation
    ___ _____ Test the foot and hand brakes first!
    ___ _____ Relax, drive a bit to get used to it.
    ___ _____ How does car ride Soft or hard
    ___ _____ Revs smoothly flatspots
    ___ _____ Any unusual engine noises/vibrations
    ___ _____ Any drive train noises or vibrations
    ___ _____ Reverse works
    ___ _____ Trans shifts smoothly to all gears
    ___ _____ Any clunks, whines, rumbles, rattles
    ___ _____ Clutch smooth Slippage on hill test
    ___ _____ Hand brake works Test against engine
    ___ _____ Brakes check from 60 km/hr
    ___ _____ Stops in straight line
    ___ _____ Make 2 tight 360' turns each way. Any noises
    ___ _____ Drive beside a long wall. Any unusual sounds
    ___ _____ Any noises or vibrations when accelerating
    ___ _____ Any noises or vibrations when decelerating
    ___ _____ Any noises or vibrations when braking
    ___ _____ Accelerate in all gears does it pop out of any gear
    ___ _____ Steering action loose or tight
    ___ _____ Tracks straight with hands off steering wheel
    ___ _____ Does the heater, defroster work
    ___ _____ Any exhaust, gas or other smells in the cabin
    ___ _____ Turn it off. Go back to check ground for leaks.

    *************************************************************
    make sure it does have a clear title from owner ring security registar in your state *** THIS IS A MUST BEFORE HANDING OVER ANY MONEY***
    NOW GO AND BUY IT YAHOOOOOOOOOOOO !!! and if your not a kombi club member ask yourself why not !!!!
    ************************************************************
     
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  2. kommodius

    kommodius New Member

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    Maybe this should be a sticky?
    Nice work Tom.
     
  3. Split 1

    Split 1 New Member

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    Done, good idea Ray
     
  4. KahunaKombi

    KahunaKombi Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Well done on that check list :rolleyes:
     
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  5. Faerkal

    Faerkal New Member

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    Thanks for this checklist - much obliged!!! It is certainly a great starting point for someone like me who has just scratched together enough $$$$ to start living the dream...

    Thanks for putting this together..

    Kind regards,
     
  6. Djohn

    Djohn New Member

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    Splitty for sale

    Hi all you Kombi fanatics, I just need to know how I go about selling my original '66 splitty and how to get some idea on her real value.
    Its an original bus with no rust ( yes thats correct, no rust !) and never pranged. Just been in storage for the last 10 years so needs a good tidy-up and some minor work doing to her.
    Did the motor and g/box up not long befor tucking her away in a shed in gippsland Vic. It's not an easy decision to make but I have decided sell her so any advice from you lot would be greatly appreciated.
    Yours sincerly
    David
     
  7. 77bay

    77bay Super Moderator Staff Member

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    No rust!? That's a bonus to start with. Post some photos in the for sale section David, you should have no worries at all. As for price, unrestored busses are going for anything these days, but if it's as solid as you say, I think you'll be surprised. good luck with the sale, I on ly wish I was of my project ban :cry: :wink:
     
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  8. SnowWhite

    SnowWhite New Member

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    Check list - you need a check list??

    We got our girl 'cos she was pretty (and fixing her up keeps the hubby outa trouble!!) :lol:
     
  9. SnowWhite

    SnowWhite New Member

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    Was kidding about the need for a check list - it's great Tom! Be using it for our next purchase for sure.

    We were so desperate to buy a Kombi that it was a case of - got some cash (doesn't happen often), going to Melbourne for the weekend - gonna buy a Kombi!!! Went to one dealer - looked at 3 - bought our girl.

    Problems started on drive home - Simon stopped for petrol and she wouldn't start. Got a push start, conked out on the Dukes outside of Keith :roll: where Simon slept the night being buffeted by the passing semi's and b-doubles :shock:.

    But hey - no regrets, love the girl to bits, repairs provide some interesting first aid scenarios (particularly when very old fuel line ruptures when Simon underneath!!) - can't wait to get her back on the road and Kombi clubbing.
     
  10. TIPRAT

    TIPRAT New Member

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    To check list i'm printing it off for my students
     
  11. barrypond

    barrypond New Member

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    Check List ??

    I am sorry, but if anyone came to my place to buy any vehicle & proceded to roll out a dunny roll sized 'check list' like that proposed I would immediately class them into "The Wankers club". If one was buying a $40k sports car I think "err ok whos,this dork?". But to apply that list to a vehicle thats propably been to the moon & back is ,in my opinion way over the top. In these days if can look for a good motor & no serious rust & drives ok I would class it as a definate contender. Dont forget people usually sell cars because there is something wrong with them! (the car I mean!) Always have an extra thousand to spend when buying an ol kombi..God lovem!!! Baz
     
  12. ttmck

    ttmck Super Moderator Staff Member

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    you have a pm bazzamon on this
    your entitled to say what you want but there is so many people that have gained alot from this sticky post sorry you think that people are ##nkers

    i would not buy a house with out a building report or check list
    as for buying a car its the 2nd most expensive item one buys in life
    but if you have money to burn so be it buyer beware
     
    Last edited: Oct 25, 2006
  13. brookie

    brookie Guest

    It is a guide to help buyers- most people are reasonably intelligent and would use this very informative guide in a logical manner. Some people do not understand anything about cars and if you read the posts in this and other forums all the comments have been to thank ttmck for the effort he put into it
     
  14. Roy

    Roy Administrator Staff Member

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    The Check List is a fantastic idea, it has helped many people make a correct decision. note I said helped, as common sense also has to be applied. Yes it is 30+ years old and any problems may be over ruled by how 'pretty' it looks.
    At the end of the day it is a guide.
    Many people ask me whether it is a good idea to get an NRMA/RAC check carried out. The answer is, if it eases your mind then do it, but then also apply common sense to it. they will not know (in some cases), what they are looking for but it will give you an idea of what you arebuying, then get informative help.

    Cheers
    The Rev
     
  15. Split 1

    Split 1 New Member

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    There was a reason this was made a sticky, because its a bloody good idea if members who do not know much about kombi's take it with them when looking at a new kombi.
    It just might help!!!!

    Dave
     
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  16. GypsyWannabe

    GypsyWannabe Active Member

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    I will certainly be taking the checklist with me when I go looking for my first Kombi! I may not bother to check everything on the list - some items may be of more interest to some, than others. I see it as a useful guide - just a guide. I have had NRMA inspections of used cars where they pointed out something wrong and I went ahead and bought the thing anyway - at least it gave me a "heads up" of what to expect to fork out for.

    Heart will probably overrule the head!

    On a tangent, and as a Kombi novice, is there somewhere where I can read-up on all the different models, engine sizes, types and specifications, prices fetched (Glass's Guide perhaps(?)) etc.?

    At this stage - and I'm almost too embarrassed to own up to it - I don't even know if you can get a model that runs on unleaded petrol; whether they are all 12v (I remember an old beetle in the family that was 6 volt); disc brakes(?) etc.

    I'm sure someone here can help point me in the right direction. I'm a bit embarrassed to go looking until I know exactly what I'm looking for...!

    Baz

    PS. A different "Baz"
     
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  17. hannah

    hannah New Member

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    kudos for the checklist!!
     
  18. Westylad

    Westylad New Member

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    i like the checklist - good job. I think just after 'Accellerate in all gears' you should add a line 'Decellerate in all gears; from 10/30/50mph for 1st/2nd/3rd/, and whatever in 4th, lift off the throttle and see if it pops out of gear - check reverse too", or something like that.

    I used the 'Buying a bus' section from the 'Compleat Idiot' book, which did cheese the owner off some, but really helped. I pretty much knew that I had found areally good bus! So I just paid what he was asking, which was a wee bit too cheap anyway.

    The thing is, the owner just wants the thing outta there, and is not very emotional. You however, are most likely shaking with excitement, and a list really helps to calm you down, and to try to stay rational. Also, if you have a 'logical' set of faults that the owner has seen you discover, you now have a great bargaining tool.
     
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  19. Spinner

    Spinner New Member

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    Great check list for a newby like me. Am looking to buy very soon and these have given me food for thought. Now all i need is a Kombie to buy!!! :lol:
     
  20. Spinner

    Spinner New Member

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    Great check list for a newby like me. Am looking to buy very soon and these have given me food for thought. Now all i need is a Kombie to buy!!! :lol:
     

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