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Cooling hose total replacement

Discussion in 'T3 & T4 Tech Help Clinic' started by beastieboy, Mar 20, 2017.

  1. hairyman

    hairyman Active Member

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    I don't think that'll be a problem. VW stamped out something like 450,000 of the T3s so there are going to be enough loved ones kicking around for years and years to make it worthwhile for spare parts to be stocked.

    Otherwise all the less numerous classics that are a few years older would all be laid up because of lack of spare parts? A guy I knew in Glasgow had a Lancia from the 1950s. It was one of 150 of that model (one of 15 in RHD!) and he didn't seem to foresee a problem finding brake shoes, hoses and other perishable parts for it. It was replacement glass and trim that had him tearing his hair out :confused:
     
  2. beastieboy

    beastieboy Active Member

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    Good to hear. Just thought the lack of abundance might be a problem.
    Plenty of sites for our vans, but alot seem to lack hoses. Everything else seems alright.
     
  3. hairyman

    hairyman Active Member

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    Unfortunately a lot has to be bought in from Europe or USA because these vans are relatively uncommon here.

    Having said that I don't see many Toyota Hi-Aces or Nissan Urvans from the same period floating around either so given the small numbers imported the VW T3 does have a good following :)
     
  4. beastieboy

    beastieboy Active Member

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    I like the old A-team van actually.
    Gmc Vandura cargo van from 1983

    Bedford Cf's are cool also:cool:
     
  5. ajunkyardkid

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    Hi beastie boy. One option for the long plastic hoses that run under the van is a mob called Easy Roll. The guy there made me some in aluminium 2.6?mm tubing for around $130. I supplied the tubing bought from Capral, gave him that and my old plastic ones to copy and he did the rest. Its located just north of grand junction road near paramount browns.
     
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  6. ajunkyardkid

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    I too have used the van cafe hose kit and found it and their service great. I recommend buying the coolant distribution tower thingy too as the original ones get very brittle.
     
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  7. beastieboy

    beastieboy Active Member

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    No worries. Alot of people raving on about Van Cafe. 2 occasions now I've tried to place $400-$500 orders.
    I request a USPS shipping quote and follow all instructions online (I'll admit I'm not ashamed to save a buck by not shipping with ups courier, as it costs as much as the parts and I don't have money to burn when it comes to shipping).
    Then I never hear back.
    I called them first too, to generally say what's up and be a bit more serious about it. Drop my order in. They are cool and say they will get back to me. Couple of days later I email and say how's it going, they reply "Oh you have to process online for a shipping quote, but don't worry you get to choose before payment."
    O.k I did that and clicked the options as stated. No special requests or anything. Waited a week. Nothing.
    So...
    Just splurged $400 in parts across 2 other websites elsewhere. Stuff is on the way already!
    Van Cafe site looks decent, blokes I've talked to on the phone seem chill. I'm standing here with the cash eager to hand it to them for stuff they have.
    Unfortunate for them in my opinion I guess. They got what I need and I'm prepared to pay, all they gotta do is come through with the goods and quotes. Zero luck there for me. Maybe next time....
    Still winning though and scored a decent deal on everything so far. Did alot of number crunching over the past 3 nights (Try sourcing about 20 different parts across about 5 websites blended with 4 different exchange rates and then comparing prices and shipping. Insane mathematical lists I've scribbled last few nights) but seem to have not overpaid for things and avoided mass shipping costs from overseas so far in comparison.
    Few more things to gather in soon. See how I go.
     
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  8. beastieboy

    beastieboy Active Member

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    ajunkyardkid - Awesome tip off mate. Will be checking easyroll out for sure later down the track.
    There's a $200 saving right there easy!
     
  9. Luckyphil

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    You must be just unlucky as I have placed 30 to 40 orders over the years to Vancafe & never had a single problem except once where I hadn't confirmed the order. How the hell can 5 separate shipping costs be cheaper than a single one. How about sharing theses cheap sites with reasonable shipping with the rest of us :) Hard to save money when you call overseas numbers .
     
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  10. beastieboy

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    So far the usually spots. JK, Ebay, Gowesty. I needed a couple of other things unrelated to this thread though as well in my orders. Kinda scooping up bits as I go at the moment.
    Left field sites I found decent was Bullisammler.de in Germany and cip1.com.
    Probably because there is so many parts, I've just been shaving a couple of bucks off each thing as best I can for my troubles searching and keeping a close eye on the postage and weighing it up store to store.
    Shop around pretty much....
    I thought you guys knew the sites, you're asking me!? That's why I opened the thread in the first place!:p Ha!
     
  11. beastieboy

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    Call international via Skype Luckyphil. ;)
    Probably about $0.01 a minute.

    Think my mobile charged me $1 and chatted for 5min.
     
  12. beastieboy

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    Been thinking about your comment Syncro. As time goes on I'm starting to agree with replacing a hose at a time. It's got me thinking this is a better backup plan if travelling.
    Still set on collecting a complete hose kit. Thinking more about it, if I change every hose, that's good, but then I gotta go through the hassle of buying everything up again just to have a spare while I'm on the move. Makes sense to maybe just replace the coolant due to availability rather than get stuck and stung chasing rubber from around the globe whilst being stranded in the middle of nowhere. Better to have spares when travelling rather than nothing really, so kinda leaning a bit that way now and maybe stretch the life out of the original hoses already on it. I'll change and replace anything looking dodgy then buy up odd hoses again to replenish the full kit.
    Worse case scenario, if the van is written off one day or something, I suppose I can offer up the leftovers to you lot on here. Trying to prep the van for a trip to Kangaroo Island in a few months time. Doubt there is a vw specialist over there and bit hard to get a tow home on a ferry I imagine. Not keen on getting stranded there.
     
  13. Grantus

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    Or you could replace all the hoses with new ones, doing one coolant flush, replacement & bleed.

    Then keep the decent hoses that come off the vehicle as spares, to keep you on the road, while you order a new replacement at leisure, if ever needed.......:rolleyes:
     
  14. beastieboy

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    That was the original plan Grantus.;)
    Also starting to give in on being an ultra thrifty bargain hunter. Just getting the parts in is the winning point in the end. Patience wears thin after a bit, lol, I'll admit it!
    Main hose of concern seems to be part number 025.121.062F
    This is quite scarce online.... unless Van Cafe are giving you decent shipping quotes.
    My reason for USPS shipping quote is E.g... This hose is $125 U.S and they quote $163.11 U.S shipping via Ups Courier.
    Incredible.
    Approximately $388 Australian for a hose pipe?
    Surely someone has modded this with a T piece or something? What's the deal here?
     
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  15. Mellow Yellow 74

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    I have bought heaps of stuff from Van Cafe and have always found their shipping prices to be reasonable. The will also forward parts from other vendors in the same shipment with the parts you buy from them.
     
  16. syncro

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    There are a few hoses to keep your eye on. Most of the others rarely fail. You may have an old hose that may last another 20 years. Then you replace it with a brand new poor quality hose that only lasts 6 months. This is where you have to be careful.

    For some strange reason, Van Cafe uses fuel line for the small breather hose. The correct hose is still available from VW dealers cheaper.
     
  17. beastieboy

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    Mellow Yellow, I'm hearing that. Like I said, just an email from them and I'm ok with it.
    Not actually hating them, it's the communication that's lacking. I'd otherwise be a greatful, happy consumer for them, much like everyone else. Until then I can cop the courier fee or backout altogether.
    I've moved on since though mate, not spending days on end ranting online disgruntled with a grudge to hold. That's going to get me nowhere fast. Sticking to the task and moving forward any way possible for me to get the job done is the thing to be doing. Nuff said...

    http://www.gowesty.com/product-details.php?v=&id=23403

    &

    http://www.gowesty.com/quickview.php?ids=4420

    I gather this replaces part number 025.121.062F yeah?
    More reasonable price for sure....
    Cheers for the tip-off Syncro also. That's another valid point with this model van. Aftermarket parts might do the job but maybe for not as long, as you state correctly. Unfortunate we have no choice in the matter.
     
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  18. beastieboy

    beastieboy Active Member

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    Syncro, do you know the part number for the small breather hose on the off chance?
     
  19. beastieboy

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    I could go on, but choosing not to. Over it...
     
  20. syncro

    syncro Well-Known Member

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    The small water hose is 443 121 107A.
    The fuel hose substitute is N901 976 01. (see pdf attachment)
     

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