Damaged thread in dizzy, can't tighten the point - HELP (please)

Discussion in 'Bay Tech Clinic' started by becjane, Mar 21, 2018.

  1. Grantus

    Grantus Well-Known Member

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    Did you find the “die” as well? :rolleyes:

    You won’t need the die, just that they tend to go together......;)
     
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  2. becjane

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    If the earth braid is the flexible black coated cord coming off the point that connects in the distributor .... yes its in place
     
  3. becjane

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    Haha yes! I know know what dye and tapping are :)
     
  4. becjane

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    I have just ordered the screw form JK. If that doesn't work I will try find a plate part to replace. Question .. if changing to electric ignition, does that require a new dissy anyway or is it a part that goes in the dissy where the current point is?
     
  5. syncro

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    No it's a copper bit of wire inside the distributor that connects to the plate that the points screw on to. Sometimes they break.
     
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  6. oldman

    oldman Super Moderator Staff Member

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    EI module fits inside the existing dizzy......fitment is crucial and best done by someone experienced.....not your average hack mechanic. The air gap is is critical to the module’s correct operation.....get it wrong and you’ll waste your money.
    Cheers,
    Mark
     
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  7. cbus

    cbus Well-Known Member

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    As Phil and Mark have said on both points.

    The electronic module doesn't equal electronic ignition as many assume.
    Its just point replacement.
    Ensures a constant timed spark.
    There are upgrades for coils etc or full on electronic units that give better spark plus programmable.
    With prices to match.
    Plenty of posts with various options.

    Again I would avoid cheaper dissy with electrinic module fitted options due to "quality" of base dissy.
     
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  8. becjane

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    I've been in contact with a member here, Gazman, a couple of times over the last few of years. I know he works out of Rockingham and would love to get my van in to him to sort out (rather than take it to the local mechanic who may not be super in the know with kombis). Problem - cant start or drive car without point tightened with screw. Boyfriends response "how bout I put a pop rivet in there to get you to Rockingham" (a 3 hour drive away). I laughed and said no. He seemed to think it would work. what would your response be top this statement :p
     
  9. becjane

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    Will check this out tomorrow
     
  10. David H

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    Many a bush mechanic has wild ideas to solve 'unsolvable problems'. Just need to set the points right when the rivet 'lands' & if you get the first 10km you'll prob get the next 200km. ( The rest of you guys don't castigate me but.....the right length aluminium rivet will have a certain tension & may allow some adjustability (knockability) after the rivet lands.) Does cause the dismantle of dissi after tho' to do what you need done. RIVET needs to be right length & diameter to not f the hole, hurt underneath & still grip base plate.... 5/16ths by 1/8th?
    Probably something I'd attempt with a spare dissi (or partner:D if it goes wrong...that's a blame thing!!) as back up;).
    Brave, bold or stupid:D. I can be all so consider this before you make your next move becjane:p.
    Cheers
     
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  11. cbus

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    No batten screws left David?? :eek:
     
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  12. David H

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    None short enough for this dissi Cbus;) unless it needs screwing to the block:p.
    Cheers
     
  13. cbus

    cbus Well-Known Member

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    Go thru the cap ;)
     
  14. becjane

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    Haha bf response “soooo proabably not a good idea then”

    Might try one of those batten screws through the cap tho and we’ll sikaflex it in
     
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  15. cbus

    cbus Well-Known Member

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    Prob hens teeth locally but.
    8-32 UNC 6.4mm long. 4.166mm dia.
    High tensile.
    Prob cut its own thread.
    32 threads/inch vs 36 for 4mm screw.
    For temp fix.
     
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  16. David H

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    Gonna make it hard to adjust timing & points:confused:.
    See what cbus just posted. Interesting 'work around';).

    Cheers:D.
     
  17. cbus

    cbus Well-Known Member

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    Do you have any temporary locktite?

    If its going up to Garth, be guided by him as to final choice.
    He will have to deal with the permenant repair and may use your kombi existing plate or source a replacement.
     
  18. David H

    David H Well-Known Member

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    Becjane... Cbus dealing with your problem & the thickness of metal & the no thread in base metal & how you may get that thread without rivets or dissi overhaul. Be patient & source his recommended screw.;)
    "Prob cut its own thread." thru base plate thickness is what he's working with.
    Cheers
     
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  19. syncro

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    Option 1/ Try new screw first.
    Option 2/ Remove distributor and take to mechanic. Five minute job to remove.
    Option 3/ Get another distributor and get yours reconditioned. Maybe 1500King?

    Any old VW mechanic should be able to help you as you're not Robinson Crusoe here.
     
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  20. KahunaKombi

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    This is a good thread to see and understand how a electronic ignition is installed -http://forums.kombiclub.com/threads/how-to-fit-an-electronic-ignition.8107/ ...... most of the pictures aren't currently there coz of botophucket but I've put back the 1st 4 and hopefully the rest will rise again like the pheonix when I get time to edit them :eek:;)
     
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