Engine upgrade for towing!

Discussion in 'Performance' started by Fly, Aug 15, 2012.

  1. Fly

    Fly New Member

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    Hi,

    I have a 74 Bay Window with a stock original manual 2.0l drivetrain. I have a enclosed motorbike trailer which I want to tow all over the country side to road racing events. I know kombi's aren't recommended for towing etc but it's where I sleep etc and it just has to do the job!

    My question is what sort of modifications would be done to my motor etc to make it very usable ie (power/ torque) for towing my trailer. Money isn't a huge issue and I understand that this could be a quite expensive exercise.

    I just want to get something built that is both reliable and powerful that I can pull up the hills in top gear instead of dropping cogs all the time.

    Cheers
     
  2. Grantus

    Grantus Well-Known Member

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    I think that's called a T3 Kombi, isn't it? :rolleyes:
     
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  3. ick72

    ick72 New Member

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    my problem also fly... grant if only i could find a good t3 syncro auto (so the misses can drive it )
     
  4. cbus

    cbus Well-Known Member

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    simpler for a suby engine n box conversion:p

    Or T5 and plenty of rear space
     
  5. kombi-man

    kombi-man Member

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    T3 's just aren't cool in the paddock.
    A bay however, has cred :)
    I would suggest you talk to one of the specialist VW engine guys, I would think towing motors would be bigger cubes and concentrate on the torque, of course fuel economy would be a side effect.
     
  6. kombi-man

    kombi-man Member

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    :lol: :lol:
     
  7. oldman

    oldman Super Moderator Staff Member

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    If money aint a problem, drop a flat 6 Porsche in it. Engine bay will require some modification but you'll get where you want to & quickly....cheers, Mark
     
  8. vassy69SC

    vassy69SC Active Member

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    If you want to talk to someone who can give guidance and build it for you give Matt Berry a call (Mob: 0408 704662)
    I have a 2165cc stroker in my single cab and it will be towing the race car on a trailer.
     
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  9. ick72

    ick72 New Member

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    vassy how does that go for everyday use
     
  10. vassy69SC

    vassy69SC Active Member

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    I have over 50,000kms on this engine now.
    I drive it every day. It is purring like a kitten ... until you stand on it and then it barks at you :)
    The engine runs cool and is not fussy to drive even in stop start traffic. I can idle along in first gear.
    The key is in the whole package working together. Anyone can throw a stroker together and even make it perform.
    It is the longevity and nice manners that require the engine builder to be someone who is very particular. That is where Matt comes in.
     
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  11. ick72

    ick72 New Member

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    ok thanks looking at something like that for my van in a little while and also needed for towing
     
  12. Menangler

    Menangler Member

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    I drove a 76 twin cab years ago with a 2.7 Porsche engine, didn't go as well as a worked over 2ltr Kombi engine, it just didn't have the torque to move a Kombi, you had to rev it's guts out to get it to go anywhere, not worth the trouble.

    I had a 2 ltr Kombi engine built with a performance cam shaft (european E grind), flat top forged pistons, 8.5 to 1 comp, stock 1800 heads and a set of 44 idf Webers, it made 112hp, revved to 6,000 rpm and still had good low down torque, I had this is my '77 deluxe bus 20 years ago, it did over 120,000 K's before I sold it.

    I am building another engine for it now which will be similar, just a little smaller on the cam, NOS genuine Porsche 914 piston and barrell kit and later square port heads with bigger valves, we'll see how that goes
     
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  13. Fly

    Fly New Member

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    Thanks everyone for your input. I've been away and haven't been able to reply.

    Vassy69SC, I will definitely give Matt a call as your engine sounds exactly what I'm looking for.

    Do you have any specs etc in a post on here that I could go over, and or some pics to see?

    Cheers
    Fly
     
  14. vassy69SC

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  15. Fly

    Fly New Member

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    Hi,
    Long time since I've been on here. Unfortunately Marigold threw a leg out of bed about 2 years ago now and has been sitting under a tarp ever since.
    After having the engine looked at for a price to rebuild etc I discovered it was a 1800cc not the 2 lt as first thought.
    So as of this month Andrew from Aircooled Antics in country Vic is going to be building me the torque monster I need for my trailer towing antics around our wonderful country.
    We are building a 2260cc from a new donor motor he got hold of a while back. I know very little about these engines but Andrew has assured me that what he is about to put together will be the perfect package for what I require.
    Will do a bit of a build post when everything gets underway. I'm going to give the engine bay a freshen up while drivetrain is out for then a full body respray etc sometime in the near future.
    Cheers
     
  16. Resnort

    Resnort Active Member

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    5 years. wow, looking forward to seeing what you create.




    oh and, T3's are now getting cool enough. :p
     
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  17. Grantus

    Grantus Well-Known Member

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    Correct, T3's need to be on the road to show off their coolness. :cool:

    Leave the paddock for those neglected Bays, (with "Cred", or is that "Crud"??), with uncaring owners waiting to make a fortune on a future sale, to some unsuspecting buyer, who's been assured, "It's just rust in the usual places"..........:confused:
     
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  18. Luckyphil

    Luckyphil Well-Known Member

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    I am hearing it so often lately from Split & Bay owners looking for a T3 to add to their collections. Probably smart people wanting to get in before the boom, after all there are less T3's than bays and probably splits as well.
     
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  19. Grantus

    Grantus Well-Known Member

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    Even less T3's, after all your hard work over the years! :)

    The boom is very close, if not here already, looking at some of the asking prices lately......o_O
     
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  20. Resnort

    Resnort Active Member

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    Air cooled T3.....rarest most cred of them all. If that's what you're into
     

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