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Fiamma awning

Discussion in 'Kombi Club' started by auschook, May 4, 2015.

  1. auschook

    auschook Member

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    I have just bought a Fiamma F35 Pro awning and am having problems fitting it to the side of my 76pop top kombi. I was told it slotted straight on to my sail track which it does but it doesn't seem to sit right, and is also a bit wobbly. Can someone pleeeeease advise me on what is the best way to fit it! Is it safe to put on fibreglass? Thanx guys look forward to your response
     
  2. KahunaKombi

    KahunaKombi Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I'd expect and not having experienced it but to put a sail track on a fibreglass poptop that has a level of flexible is of concern and could be part of the problem - depends on what you mean by sit right also
     
  3. auschook

    auschook Member

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    It turns out that these awnings weren't really made to go easily on to a pop top kombi. I got a quote today from a caravan repairer to make some special brackets and ha quoted me $750, what a f#%@ing rip off. I really don't know which way to turn now. Obviously there is no kombis out there that have one of these fitted!!
     
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  4. Weekender

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    Perhaps if you could post a few pictures, some other ideas could be put forward - L
     
  5. KahunaKombi

    KahunaKombi Super Moderator Staff Member

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  6. auschook

    auschook Member

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    image.jpg image.jpg I just checked out the gutter attachment on just kampers, it looks like it would fit. Not sure as gutter isn't very wide on kombi.
     
  7. KahunaKombi

    KahunaKombi Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Looks like it is meant to fit into a sail track ???? design of JK product agrees with that assumption on checking :eek:

    Kai I think works @ just kampers (or used to) and if he still does maybe he can help with measuring on his Kombi gutters for you and whether 2 will be enough :rolleyes:
     
  8. KahunaKombi

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  9. cbus

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    sounds typical for some repairers . wouldn't go back there .
    Bert has indicated recommended fixtures as supplied by manufacturers.

    I haven't fitted one but if you look at other threads about awnings there are two points to consider,
    the weight of an awning mounted to the pop top can require some stays to keep the roof from sagging under the weight of the awning when both are up.
    awnings mounted at gutter level can be just over head height.

    If you decided to mount it on the pop top I would suggest that the sail track would need to be secured properly and need a strip of aluminium approx. 30x4mm running full length on the inside [glued on with sika to a clean surface] to spread load of securing bolts/rivets.
    would sika the track as well.

    cheapest and easiest would be the gutter mounts from manufacturer. They also raise the awning slightly
     
  10. 68BUS

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    Would wind be a danger if mounted to the pop top when up. A lot of racking force and the scissor mechanism that holds the pop top up.
     
  11. oldman

    oldman Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I wouldn't be mounting that set-up to a fibreglass pop-top.
    Pop-tops are only designed to keep water out, ie act as an elevated roof.
    I've never seen one that is thick enough to support anything of substance.
    I've mounted an Oztrail awning on mine but beefed up the pop-top with additional aluminium plates - along the lines of Col's suggestion - & buffered with white nitrile rubber to stop the rubbing….
    Page 4, posts 72 & 73 in this Thread:
    http://forums.kombiclub.com/showthread.php?18861-Awning-Reviews/page4
    Hope you get your's sorted out.
    Cheers,
    Mark
     
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  12. KahunaKombi

    KahunaKombi Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Col, Chook wants to mount it on to the side of his pop top - he does not from the pics provided have a sail track so think the brackets are his only option - should also allow pop top to be popped ;)
     
  13. cbus

    cbus Well-Known Member

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    I recon it would be a considerable risk :)

    would pay to drop pop top at slightest suggestion of a storm.

    as Mark said.
    Damn thin bit of chopped strand glass and polyester plus most already have stress fractures.
    Also they are finely balanced on the frames so it wouldn't take much to twist the arms due to excess loading on one side.
     
  14. cbus

    cbus Well-Known Member

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    and I totally agree.

    As Mark discovered, his awning required support while up.
    Seen others with similar issues but not looked closely
    In the back of my mind is the qn of how much heavier is the Fiamma unit. Supposed to be good quality so would expect weight penalty?
     
  15. KahunaKombi

    KahunaKombi Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Ok so there are various models of the F35 Pro and size does matter according to the one you get - weight varies from 8.5kg to 14kg as does the width & depth (mmm sound familiar).

    Up to chook to do some research to sort it out as he's got both items
     
  16. Kai

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  17. Kai

    Kai Well-Known Member

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    you can mount with sail track but it is normally only used for flat wall installation.

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  18. Kombi Dad

    Kombi Dad Well-Known Member

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    The awning on my '82 camper was mounted by the "professionals" as per the following photos.

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    If you look closely you will see an angle aluminium strip between the awning and the kombi. I did this as rain used to come in between the awning and the camper. This awning was fitted fifteen years ago and is still going strong.

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    Ian
     
  19. KahunaKombi

    KahunaKombi Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Thanks Kai for those pics - it looks different to what I thought it would based on pic on JKA site
     
  20. Kai

    Kai Well-Known Member

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    the photos might be of the f45 awning brackets but the mounts around the gutter are the same.
     

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