GoWesty T3 Engine Management System Released

Discussion in 'T3 & T4 Tech Help Clinic' started by Luckyphil, Feb 2, 2018.

  1. Luckyphil

    Luckyphil Well-Known Member

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    mmmm...................thinking time required

    Wonder what the Megasquirt system would cost
    But this is everything in a kit incl wires and such

    The OBDII Scan Gauge Kit is cool

    Thought I read they need some exchange parts?
     
  3. Luckyphil

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    No exchange parts required, the guy on the Samba does require your pulley as he welds the toothed wheel to the pulley. He also will have a turbo option which sounds great and he claims will be cheaper.
     
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    Wow $3k US which is a lot for many vans worth around $6k AUD.

    Maybe when T3's get up to being regularly worth $40k there would be no hesitation...
     
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    Would be interested to know what the power gain would be.
    Plenty of people picking up ponies with aftermarket ecu's.
     
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    Time to wait & see the feedback in the US before consider spending that much. BUT 2k with Turbo, very tempting :)
     
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    Most are looking for reliability. AFM's are dying along with the other NLA parts. getting harder to find good used bits & could be cheaper than going Subi which has its own issues.
     
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  8. Andy.

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    Turbo sounds the go, would expect a good economy improvement with that (cam change also?)
    Wonder what it does to the low end torque though?
     
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    Low boost should be gentle on mechanicals & give good power boost without being stupid.
     
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    Many likely spend 2k fitting carbs in an attempt to sort the efi.
     
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    Issues ?
     
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  12. Luckyphil

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    Have heard that a subi from an auto put into a manual T3 has some engine speed issues when changing gears, is there a fix for that. Ground clearence issues with lowered T3, they can also destroy T3 5 speeds.
     
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    Haven't heard that, a quality signal from the vss to the ecu is a must though, any engine combo will test a 30-40 year old gearbox once the traffic light drags are tempered with a couple of speeding tickets.
    As for ground clearance, Smallcar alloy sump and a well designed exhaust system gives the same clearance as a wasserboxer.
     
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    The issue is what i have and i know another member on here has the same issue. Its only minor but with fast gear changed for say up hill acceleration (I know T3's are not used to accelerating up hills - you need a Suby for that), the engine does not drop revs quickly enough - probably as autos need to keep revs up to keep the power going.

    According to Nick Tune in the UK there is a fix but he didnt say what it was and I'm not sending my loom over there just for that.

    I know engines from manual subys don't have the issue.

    Its not enough to worry about - the gears change no worries - probably just shorten the clutch life slightly.

    Normal speed gear changes are no issue.

    The power is the best bit :D
     
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  15. Luckyphil

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    Marco from The Samba now advises that his replacement FI kit with Turbo will be aprox $3800us. This includes fan assisted engine oil cooler and twin radiators mounted under van for I assume turbo cooling. This represents good value in comparison to the GW kit at $3k us Ok both are a lot of money but if you have a good engine but poor FI it is better option than an engine conversion. Need more detail and user feedback before I outlay that sort of $$$ as well as add to the purchase price $A to $US conversion & shipping then more $$$ to have fitted.
     
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    I too wold like some dyno info, and a few more details on user friendly reprogramming, etc. to accommodate those who just have to fiddle. My 1970cc near stock Type 4 puts out an extra 60% power (thats on less cc's and less compression than an MV).
     
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    Mine does :D
     
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    Is that 60% more RWHP compared to stock AC-T3? Not that I know what stock RWHP is, but guess ~50hp, so you have ~125hp?
    Very nice!
     
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    Want to try that calculation again ? :)
     
  20. Andy.

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    OK, 80 if you prefer........
     

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