Heavy duty axles

Discussion in 'T3 & T4 Tech Help Clinic' started by BUS_TER, Feb 4, 2018.

  1. BUS_TER

    BUS_TER Member

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    I guess this conversation has been had many times but because Im a newby, I have to ask.

    Has anyone installed these?
    http://www.gowesty.com/product/axle...eavy-duty-axle-kit-automatic-transmission-?v=

    Or these?
    http://www.gowesty.com/product/coil-springs/23690/gowesty-rear-coil-springs---2wd?v=

    Or these?
    http://www.gowesty.com/product/shock-absorbers-bushings/23676/fox-shock-absorber-set-?v=

    Most threads Ive viewed all point me towards Gowesty products and Im happy to bring them in if there is not a local alternative as good.
    Can someone tell me if this is the best option for a lift.
    Does it need to be done by a suspension specialist?
     
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    From what I have read is that a 1.5 - 2" lift can put extra stresses on the CV joint as it creates a sharper angle. Is this not the case?
     
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    Yes as well as other problems.
     
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    Standard drive shafts handle Subi power without any problems.
     
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    They also handle V6 Audi, V6 TDI and Oettinger conversions.
     
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    So if I go ahead what are the other problems Syncro? I'm having my engine removed today and rebuilt over the next three weeks. Sticking with the engine I have now.
     
  8. Luckyphil

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    I have read that Porsche CV's help resolve the problem when lifting as have a greater range of movement. Another issue can be torn CV boots due to different angle on boot putting stress on the boot.
     
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    Thanks Phil, had read that somewhere too. Think there might be a Toyota or Fairlane compatible boot. Is a decent wad of money, product/ shipping/ install, so I want to know all the risks before I pull the trigger.
     
  10. peter915

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    It also depends on the amount of kilometers or wear on the CV.
    A CV which has many kilometres on it will have a wear track. Altering the suspension, and changing axle angle will put the worn CV into a new wear pattern which cause issues as the CV balls rotate through this pattern and over the old wear track.
    The best solution is to begin with new CV's at the new suspension height.
    Depends how long you want keep the vehicle.
     
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  11. BUS_TER

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    Awesome! Thanks Peter. Just had new CV's put in before the head gasket went so they've done all of 1000Klms. Having my mechanic check them out while its in the shop as I wasnt convinced they were of good quality. The bolt heads sheared off in the first five minutes, then had those replaced!! Makes sense if they the whole kit all around is new. Have to do more research on the boots.

    This club is the duck's nutz!!
     
  12. cbus

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    As Phil said.^

    Only necessary if you were doing some serious lifting and off roading with LSD or locker as I see it.
    A matter of angles issues under those circumstance's accentuated with short side auto shaft.

    A cheaper / less gain option would be 914 cv's??. Trying to find the table of angles.
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    http://www.blindchickenracing.com/how_to/cvjoints_axles/cv_joints_101.htm
    Edit. Seems Type4 cv NLA.

    A guess for heads off bolts is not fitted correctly.
    They NEED to be done by hand and finished with a TORQUE WRENCH.

    Use GKN as per Marks post on busted cv's.
    Edit
    http://forums.kombiclub.com/threads/blowing-cv-joints-now-sorted.55469/page-3#post-607656

    Think it was Ian mentioning Toyota boots and Nils was fitting some to kombi plates.??

    Some general info
    http://www.van-cafe.com/cv-joint-maintenence
     
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  13. AC-T3

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    Correct. Ian and Nick also mention no issues with 2" lift on stock CV's but stock boots just don't cut it. Nils' solution is posted somewhere - just can't find it.
     
  14. peter915

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    Jeannot in Hawaii sells silicone CV boots to suit the 930 CV.
    I've brought a bit from him.
    Nice guy.
    He's on Samba as "Alika"
    Tbe 930 needs more room in the boot than the standard boot.
    And the silicone wll tollerate the angles
    I have his email if you pm me
     
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  15. BUS_TER

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    Legend! Will do.
     
  16. cbus

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    Will edit above as well but seems type4 cv NLA.
    Unless you steal them off a type 4 but be careful ;)
     
  17. cbus

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    Just watch out for shocks.
    Konis are a few mm short of housing stops so may get hung up more frequently if suspension raised.
     
  18. BUS_TER

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    I'm looking at the Fox shocks suggested by gowesty to suit their springs.
     
  19. cbus

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    You some sort of rich bugger ?? :D
     
  20. BUS_TER

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    Wont be in a months time!! Still trying to get my head around a $15K respray. But once he was up on the tow truck this morning and I was looking at him from a different angle.....Buster could sure use one. Just sold my JEEP Wrangler so the money from the sale will go into Buster. Im a bit excited....cant wait to get him back on the road for starters.
     

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