Installing a BlazeCut fire suppression system

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  1. David H

    David H Well-Known Member

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    "Or legal in OZ". So putting out a fire is now illegal? Bring on the wet hessian bag!;)
    I'm with OSF. WTF?????? If I can't understand something I follow the money trail & this reeks of that. Somebody trying to 'corner the market' to maximise profit as they've realised we all want one. Glad I got mine before an installer was needed. How hard can it be to put 8 supplied cable ties in place:mad::confused::eek::rolleyes:. 1 year training & a university degree??
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  2. David H

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    Must have something to do with the chemicals it contains? But why the install bit?o_O
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  3. melissa

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    I have asked a local retailer/installer and he is getting back to me - he is waiting on a reply himself from the importer who is currently overseas.
     
  4. samba61

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    check out Fireboy from vw air-cooled works in the uk...no need for a hose and it won't fill your engine bay with powder.

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  5. Mr Beckstar

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    Here’s the content of that link. Seems like Shannons have at least someone there that likes Blazecut.


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    Better quality image.
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  7. cbus

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    Toying with running the double sensor version of one of these.

    http://engineguard.com.au/product/engine-guard-dual-temperature-sensor-kit/

    One for oil temp.
    The other attached to a suitable sized plate of Al or copper attached to engine bay roof as a temp sensor for fire.

    Obviously doesn't fight fire but could makeup a CO2 manual or automatically triggered system pretty easily.

    Thoughts?

    Another alternative for the second sensor is modify signal or change thermistor to create a head temp sensor ?
     
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  8. oldman

    oldman Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Head temp. sensor ?
    There’d be systems going off left right n centre based on what temps.some folks say they’re getting :rolleyes:
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    Mark
     
  9. cbus

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    Yeah :)
    Might get up them to sort their engine rather than abuse it and claiming ' these things are unkillable' ;)
    Na. Wouldn't use head temp for triggering.
    Just an alternative use of one sensor to guage.
    Would only do fire detect off the metal plate. Figure it gets heated same as for blazecut and both metals have good conductivity.
    Settable triggering temp handy.
    Think the blazecut is about 130C ?
    Highest heat soak temps in engine bay at a guess ( easily established) prob 80 ish.
     
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  10. David H

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    It's triggered by anything over 80 c in engine bay (so says the blurb) & above the area of temp (above any area above 80 c) with no residual. Unlike powder extinguishers that damage. Ventilate & then move on;).
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  12. David H

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    Fair enough! ;) Box said 80 but I defer:oops:.
    Don't care the temp so long as it bloody well works:D & beats any fire:rolleyes:;):):D.
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  14. OSF

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    So are Deering are actually still selling these now?
     
  15. cbus

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    No idea. But a lot of businesses still listing them and no info regards restrictions.
    Either lazy or have stock that they are willing to sell?
    Likely both.
    Link was to show they all seem to have copied a source indicating approx 120C activation temp.
     
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  18. melissa

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    I asked again just the other week and he said that the distributor has still not got back to him. He said it had to do with the chemical retardant being the issue.
     
  19. David H

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  20. OSF

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    Just ordered the 3m BlazeCut online from Deering Autronics.
    My order went through AOK, so I'm assuming all is good and it will be on it's way to me shortly.

    I'm happy to install myself and get it in there protecting my DC till such time as someone tells me it's illegal or I can't.
    $324.85 (inc. postage) seems a small price to pay for piece of mind, even if this ends up just being a temporary measure and I am forced to replace it with something else down the track.

    I'll let you know if there are any issues actually getting it.

    Cheers
     

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