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Need to lower a T3 Caravelle

Discussion in 'T3 & T4 Tech Help Clinic' started by Greg Milne, Feb 4, 2015.

  1. Greg Milne

    Greg Milne New Member

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    Any recommondations would be appreciated ie, workshops, lowering kits, suspension specialists etc. Thank you
     
  2. 85 Caravelle

    85 Caravelle Member

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    Just Kampers have lowering kits but I believe the ride is greatly affected by lowering .
     
  3. Barry

    Barry Well-Known Member

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    A mate and I are in the process at the moment
    Involves Bilsteins and H&R springs

    What are you after?
    Looks ? handling? slight drop? radical?
     
  4. Barry

    Barry Well-Known Member

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    not necessarily - well greatly affect can be in the positive
     
  5. Grantus

    Grantus Well-Known Member

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    Hi Greg and welcome to the Kombi Club!:)

    "Need" to lower a T3? Have a good think about it....yes, the lowered stance does look good, but to the detriment somewhat of handling.

    Much rougher ride, and no where near as comfy...and gets worse the more load you put in it.

    However, if you do feel that you need to, don't drop it anymore than 40mm, coz the rest of the factory bit's won't handle say a 60mm or 70mm drop, without long term problems like camber.

    There are plenty of kits available here and overseas, and sometimes come up 2nd hand here, from people finally fed up, and putting there T3 back to standard height....;)
     
  6. Greg Milne

    Greg Milne New Member

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    Mainly for Looks,i have standard wheels and there is a huge gap between arch and tyre,the perfect pic is on page 18 of the VW MAGAZINE(AUS)..Aug-OCT 2014,ISSUE43,if you have it...thats the general idea,also convenient as its a battle to go into some undercover parkings
     
  7. Greg Milne

    Greg Milne New Member

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    sorry,think i replied on feedback,first time using site...

    Thanks for the welcome,much appreciated and for the advice,yes i do understand the concerns,looks like 40mm would be the way to go then?
     
  8. Luckyphil

    Luckyphil Well-Known Member

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    Hi Greg, been down that road with Bus Stop lowering springs -60mm, H&R were supposed to be -50mm and another set with no name that were also supposed to be -50mm but more like -60mm. I used Koni adjustable shocks with all the above with 1 ring removed from the front bump stops. First problem is finding anyone that will give a proper wheel alignment, 2nd problem developed the trademark squeak from the upper control arm bushes HOWEVER the handling was awesome and ride good except when hit a substantial bump or on rough roads. I did notice that my front mud flaps dragged on ground when cornering wit 3 passengers on board. Then I discovered that VW had factory -30mm springs as standard equipment on the Carat models, but that model was not available in AU so I looked on a site called thesamba in USA http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/index.php and found a used set of carat springs and had them sent over, problem solved, had a nice stance, handling still great thanks to the Koni shocks and no more dragging flaps. Bloody sold the van and have recently brought another set in from USA for my current ride but will be running Bilsteins this time round.
     
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  9. Barry

    Barry Well-Known Member

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    Greg

    This is my bus. I wasnt happy with the ride quality, but since found out one of the rear shocks was completely shagged.
    Once I get the front done I will have more of an opinion and a set of springs for sale

    I have changed the rear to a shortened Bilstein and the difference is unbelievable.

    I have had T3's for over 10 years - stock, sports and lowered so i am aware of what a T3 is capbable of

    [​IMG]
     
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  10. Greg Milne

    Greg Milne New Member

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    how low are you guys going to drop it Barry?
    is it a lowering kit that was bought or a combo match that does the job?
     
  11. Barry

    Barry Well-Known Member

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    At present it has a 3" inch drop
    I am unsure what shocks were in there. Probably standard.

    I am putting H&R springs in which give a 2" drop.
    I will be matching these with shortened (compared to stock) Bilsteins all round.
     
  12. Greg Milne

    Greg Milne New Member

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    wow,she's a beauty,are those Fuchs 17" rims,nothing beats experience man,im still new to T3,my first one actually,which i bought when i arrived in Australia 3months ago,use to have a 69 lowlite which i had to let go of,so went through the whole drop spindles and beam adjusters story,but not this,all new to me,so much appreciated thanx
     
  13. Barry

    Barry Well-Known Member

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    Tanks Greg

    The wheels are 17" Airevo copies with kombi bolt pattern
     
  14. Coops

    Coops Member

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    Hi Barry, I am taking off my koni Reds and Weitec springs sourced from van cafe, they dropped my van about 30mm, handling is awesome but my little girl gets car sick very, very easily, so going back to stock. Let me know if interested.
     
  15. Barry

    Barry Well-Known Member

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    thanks Coops, but already paid the money.
    Just waiting for the package to turn up.
     
  16. Greg Milne

    Greg Milne New Member

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    would 3inches be refering to 40mm?...2inch 60mm
     
  17. Barry

    Barry Well-Known Member

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    2" - 50mm
    3" - 75mm
     
  18. Greg Milne

    Greg Milne New Member

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    i hear you,im definatley going to do some homework on carat springs,thanks....any fitment recommendations as i dont have the resources to change the springs and shocks myself
     
  19. jsmiller

    jsmiller Active Member

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    Slow and low is the way to go! I've had a couple of T3 and I've lowered both. I actually have Luckyphils old Busstop -60mm springs in mine! Ride is great handling is great I have no complains really. Just don't cut too much off the bump stops because your tire can hit the wheel well lips if you hit a driveway edge or soft curb to hard. The key to having a lowered T3 that rides well are the shocks! I have Koni red adjustables turned up to almost fully hard. My other T3 I had back in the states was lowered with stock shocks and while not terrible it was way worse than mine now. Just do it! Dump that brick
     
  20. Greg Milne

    Greg Milne New Member

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    ok,got it now thanx
     

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