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Pop top or Tin Top

Discussion in 'Buying and selling help' started by Campervanstu, Apr 7, 2018.

  1. Campervanstu

    Campervanstu Member

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    So after a few months of searching for a bay window camper. Someone recently said why do you need a pop top. Having only ever owned pop top campers I was looking for advice from those of you that have a tin top camper. Do I really need that extra headroom?? Helpful advice appreciated in advance
     
  2. oldman

    oldman Super Moderator Staff Member

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    The headroom is invaluable if you get caught out in rainy weather.......
    Many times we've cooked inside our camper when the weather is "ordinary"...
    Just being able to stand up and access gear stored on the pop-top bunk slats is reason enough for us !!
    At the end of the day, your bus....your choice.
    Cheers,
    Mark
     
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  3. Campervanstu

    Campervanstu Member

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    Thanks Mark,

    Can I ask what types of camper you own and have you compared headroom against other Kombis?

    Regards

    Stuart
     
  4. betsy

    betsy Well-Known Member

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    I have only even had the one vw kombi..its a pop top.
    On occasion I have had to camp descretly.
    So i have not put the pop top up.
    It is much better camping with the pop top up...even just parking at the beach for the afternoon it's better with the top up,allowing heat to escape and being able to stand up when changing clothes.
     
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  5. oldman

    oldman Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Hi Stuart, I have a '76 Sopru.....deluxe.
    Two burner + grill Lpg stove, 3 way fridge, sink & water tank with plenty of storage & a 1 & 1/2 width r'n'r bed. ( Gotta travel with someone you love ! )
    We've just done over 2K klms to Stanthorpe via Lightning ridge, towing a pod trailer. ....effortless.
    Everything is stock and in best possible condition.
    There is no comparison between a pop top & a tin top....
    One you can stand full height in - helps when you are getting changed...
    The other you cannot.
    Cheers,
    Mark
     
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  6. betsy

    betsy Well-Known Member

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    Also the pop top gives you extra storage and or extra sleeping options .
     
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  7. Campervanstu

    Campervanstu Member

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    Thanks Guys, it’s been 15 years since I owned my last Kombi and I’ve probably forgot the niggles. It’s the little things like getting changed and the extra storage/ sleeeping room that I think I would miss.

    I think I may have to wait a bit longer for the right pop top kombi to come along as I really don’t fancy cutting a hole in the roof !

    Happy Camping :)

    Stu
     
  8. wirrah

    wirrah Well-Known Member

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    I have owned both. A '78 Sopru conversion mit pop top. I currently own a tin top Westy (that's Westfalia not West Highland Terrier).

    I have only done any sort of camping in the Sopru (years ago). I think I'd rather have that extra height. The Westy is a day tripper only.
     
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  9. Campervanstu

    Campervanstu Member

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    Thanks @wirrah thats great advice. I’m planning big camping trips with the wife so the pop top sound better :)
     
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  10. Gerry and Robyn

    Gerry and Robyn Active Member

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    Tin tops are fine if you're about 4'13".
     
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  11. peter915

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  12. Campervanstu

    Campervanstu Member

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    Thanks everyone for messages of support. Next question.(S)

    1) Has anyone done a conversion from tin top to pop top?

    2) is it still possible to get it licensed or are there any ADR or RWC issues?

    3) What reinforcement is needed ?

    I’ve looked around the web and seen some 2 minute videos of people cutting a hole in the roof but beyond that it’s a mystery

    Thanks

    Stuart
     
  13. peter915

    peter915 Active Member

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    Stuart
    Answer to your questions.
    See the thread below which Cbus (Colin) started and I added to.

    I am based in QLD and I have had an engineer look at my conversion. Basically he saw no issues providing my vehicle remained a 2x seater as per its original build.
    If I was to make the vehicle a 4 or 5 seater it would possibly need reinforcement.
    I didn't enter into this requirement (reinforcement) as it doesn't apply to me.

    The roof conversion is now complete - except for some cosmetic touches inside.
    Peter


    http://forums.kombiclub.com/threads/repairing-painting-fibreglass-poptops.56669/page-2#post-626113
     
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  14. Campervanstu

    Campervanstu Member

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    Thanks Peter,

    Looks like a great bit of work. How did you go with that nibbler attachment on the drill, any good?

    Thanks

    Stuart
     
  15. peter915

    peter915 Active Member

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    Nah - the nibber wouldn't work with that sheet metal gauge ?
    I used Wiss Snips - left and rights
    No grinding, no swarf, no dust.
     
  16. Barry

    Barry Well-Known Member

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    I "believe" if you use the Reimo kit it "may" not need engineering as it is not as bigger hole as a "normal" poptop
    It does not cut through any roof supports

    https://www.reimo.com/en/20136-vw_t3_pop_top_roof_superflat_1980_1990_front_pop_up_white/
     

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