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Replacing the DOKA cab doors

Discussion in 'T3 & T4 Tech Help Clinic' started by johnvw, Jul 13, 2020.

  1. johnvw

    johnvw Member

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    Never been happy with the front cab doors on the DOKA... the drivers door was difficult to close and any attempt to re-align the door, by both myself and my mechanic was unsuccessful. The front passenger door also had some panel damage.
    I was supplied with a set of cab doors 12 months ago and finally thought... time to attempt the replacement. 20200713_160239a.jpg
     
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  2. Luckyphil

    Luckyphil Well-Known Member

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    Finally :)
     
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  3. johnvw

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    Replacement Doors
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    Yeah I know..:)
    Now lets see what surprises await..
     
  5. johnvw

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    Door seals and Tee Buttons
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  6. johnvw

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    New window and door parts. I even have new door cards.. not upholstered.. in the garage somewhere.. :p

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  7. Grantus

    Grantus Well-Known Member

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    Most of that stuff looks very familiar.... ;)
     
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  8. johnvw

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    Well I made a start on the doors.
    Search KC for inspiration... How to remove door seal glue.
    Some great advice from @cbus re thread http://forums.kombiclub.com/threads/help-removing-door-seal-glue.52431/
    Tried thinners... not bad..
    Tried wax and grease remover... also not bad..
    Found that a big arse can of elbow grease did the job.. only managed one door today.. don't want to rush things..:p
    Also found that a sharp blade, screw driver pushing a rag into the nooks and crannies worked a treat for those difficult areas..
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  9. johnvw

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    Nice clean door (on the outside) .. at least as clean as its going to get..

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    Yikes... found some rust in the front corner...

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    Found the culprit for the rust... leave and dirt inside the door.. :(
    Doors must have been previously stored outside ?
    Prior to your storage, I suspect Grantus.. :oops:

    I will dispose of the garden bed...
    Whats the best method to use to clean out the inside of the door ?
    How do I ensure that I don't leave any moisture?
    Also, I plan to attempt to weld up the hole in the bottom of the door. Since I can't get any tools to the back of the hole.. What should I spray, which will survive the welding process. :D
    Any advice welcome... all new to me.. o_O
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  12. Grantus

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    Don’t throw away those red doors...... you may need a cut to fix that rust hole.
     
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    Good idea Grantus.
     
  14. David H

    David H Well-Known Member

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    Wait until you've cleaned out the garden bed then weld in a patch then think about rust prevention/conversion;). I prefer fish oil.
    Fish don't rust;).
    Cheers
     
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  15. johnvw

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    Finally got the passenger door replaced...
    Replaced Passengers Door resized.jpg Replaced Passenger Door Edge resized.jpg Replacement Drivers Door Without Seal resized3.jpg
    New window seals (not the quarter window), scrappers, door check... completely stripped down the old door and transferred over the bits to the replacement door.
    Was smart enough to leave the existing door seal in place since it was in fair condition (as both replacement doors will need to be painted in the near future), but not smart enough to realize this fact before removing the seal on the drivers door. :eek:
    Just too keen to clean up the driver's door. :p
    Well I suppose Its all about learning...:)

    Anyway I need to temporarily fix the new door seal to the driver's door until I organize a repaint (possible a couple of months).
    I have the Tee Button seal clips for the door seal:
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    ... noticed a comment made by @Grantus on this thread:
    https://forums.kombiclub.com/threads/t3-tintop-westfalia-conversion.58667/page-6
    "The 3 clips one side, and the single clip the other side, tends to secure it pretty well around the whole top half.
    I used about 3 small dabs of contact glue, around the wheel arch section"

    I was wondering if this adhesive would do the job? If not, any suggestions, keeping in mind I will be removing the door seal, for future use, without damaging it.
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  16. Grantus

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    If you are going to remove the seals for painting, don’t use any glue at this stage.

    The worst that will happen, is it may fall away from the door along the wheel arch, but if you just keep an eye on it, each time you open the door, you may just have to tuck it back up into position if it’s sagging, before you close the door.
     
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    Unfortunately the seal wont sit well around the bottom of the door.. as mentioned in your previous thread.. Not looking forward to 'just tucking it back up into position" each time.. that would be painful.. but perhaps your right.. I suppose I could use the passenger door for a while. :(

    I noticed both on the original doors and the replacement doors, adhesive was used nearly all the way around.
    What adhesive did you use?
     
  18. Grantus

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    Just dobs of contact adhesive does the trick, but would be pain to get off again for painting.

    How about using a few squares of double sided tape until you remove them? :rolleyes:

    Is the drivers door closing and hanging like it should now?
     
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    I think Ill try the double sided tape as a temporary fix until I speak to my spray painting guy.

    Yeah the door is aligned great. Just attached the replacement door, tightened up the bolts and nearly a perfect alignment.... least for my eyes. As discussed previously, the existing drivers door must have had a bent/damaged hinge.

    Is this the sort of contact adhesive you would use?
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  20. Grantus

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    That “Handy” glue, should work fine, but I see with delivery, you are paying quite a premium for the convenient size.....

    I buy 20 litres at a time of contact glue.

    You are welcome to drop by for a coffee catchup, and I’ll give you a jar full of more than 60mls, when the time comes. ;)
     
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