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T3 wheels - Advice please

Discussion in 'T3 & T4 Tech Help Clinic' started by Esky, Jan 29, 2017.

  1. kimosabi

    kimosabi Active Member

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    Another dumb question for those that know these things... As previously posted i'm fitting Tiguan wheels to my T3.
    My delivery of "mag wheel nuts" from Just Kampers yesterday and the .. ? ball part of the nut... the seat? doesn't seem to be the same size and shape as the Factory Tiguan Stud nuts that came with the wheels.
    Although the thread size is correct the the "ball" of the nut seems to be a bit bigger and different profile so it doesn't imbed itself all the way into the wheel.
    Any suggestions?
     
  2. cbus

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    Another issue is the JK ones were soft metal and can strip.
    Need to check what current stock is.

    Check 'ball size' against a stock kombi nut.
     
  3. Grantus

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    Are you sure the alloys require ball type nuts?

    Most alloys require a tapered head nut........
     
  4. cbus

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  5. kimosabi

    kimosabi Active Member

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    Here's the difference in profile between Genuine VW Tiguan studs and the JK nut.
    The taper on the Tiguan seems to be more rounded and has further penetration all the way to the thread. The JK nut, although the thread is the same has a larger diameter cone/taper that stops with a square shoulder before it get to the base of the thread.
    To my untrained eye surely this means a few less turns grab on the stud and its not seating properly.
    IMG_7397.JPG.jpeg
     
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  6. kimosabi

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    Thanks CBUS.. just looked at the t3 technique pdf.. and yes its looks like a more rounded seat on the VW nut.
     
  7. cbus

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    I will try again.
    Didn't read your post properly.

    Looks like your Tiugan has a normal T3 face.
    ie, 14mm with 1.5 pitch thread and ball contact face.

    Does a stock T3 nut fit on rear?
     
  8. kimosabi

    kimosabi Active Member

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    Nope.. the T3 nuts is quiet a bit bigger diameter and dont bury themselve's far enough into the wheel. I just went to Autobarn and spoke to a guy that seemed "to know" and he said VW are ball type and can be ordered from a NSW manufacturer for about $10 each.
    JUst got an email from Christopher at t3technique and he confirmed the Tiguan wheel need small ball type nuts.. not the normal taper ones most mag wheels have. Arrrgh!
     
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  9. syncro

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    Be careful of the Australian made ones. If they are like the ones that I have seen I would not use them.
     
  10. cbus

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    Sounds like you need the ones used for merc wheels.
    Ball as per a 12mm stud but with 14x1.5 thread
     
  11. Dapom

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    With a mag wheel you might have enough material to bore the round seat to 60deg taper which means the jk nuts would work. Also opens up a heap more manufacturers like lugnut king etc. was considering doing this to my steels but decided I wasn't comfortable with the thickness of material left.
     
  12. syncro

    syncro Well-Known Member

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    Much easier to buy nuts.

    http://www.t3technique.com/lug-nuts-studs-and-bolts/lug-nuts.html
     
  13. syncro

    syncro Well-Known Member

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    Without any proper information, that would be what I am thinking.
     
  14. cbus

    cbus Well-Known Member

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    Kimosabi.
    What is your current location?
    Avatar says NSW but I thought you indicated brissy at some stage
     
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  16. Grantus

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    I believe he's up on the NSW / QLD border. :rolleyes:
     
  17. kimosabi

    kimosabi Active Member

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    IMG_7402.JPG Wookie's new wheels - Tiguan.
    I work in Brisbane during the week and stay in Nundah but come home to Banora Point weekends.
    Wookie lives at Banora Point so I can only work on him weekends..
    Now I've got the wheels on.. I think they look o.k. and now I know how easy it is to fit wheels from the VW group I think I might look for some Skoda Octavia wheels.. they sort of look more VW dub- Porsch-ish.. what do you think? IMG_7394.JPG
    Skoda Octavia wheels
     
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  18. Grantus

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    I'm a HUGE fan of easy to clean 5 spoke alloys.......so I think those Octavia wheels look awesome! ;)
     
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  19. kimosabi

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    Yep, the Octavia wheels look nice.. the 16"s have a 46mm off- set so the same tyre size will stick out 13mm further than the Tiguans which have a 33mm off-set.
    Not sure how that will go with the sliding door but possibly o.k.
    The 215/65/16' Tiguan wheels have 30mm clearance to the sliding door and are 20mm inside front guards.
     
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  20. mackaymanx

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    A 46mm offset will tuck them in more not out.
     
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