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Trying to identify an engine.

Discussion in 'Bay Tech Clinic' started by Robert D, Jan 31, 2019.

  1. Robert D

    Robert D New Member

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    Hi - I recently bought a 75 bay and am in the process of stripping it down to see what I've gotten myself into.

    Things are going well, however main concern at the minute is that I don't think the engine (which came in a box) isn't the original or even the correct one for it. I've tried all the various routes to see if I could work out what it is, or what CC it is, but to no avail.

    I've attached a few photos of it and what minimal information I have is:
    The engine number is - SFF0422374 - which doesn't correspond to any database I have found.
    It has single intake ports.
    There doesn't look like there are any visible bolt holes to attach the an engine support strut underneath it.

    Anyone out there in VW land know what model and CC this could be? Many thanks in advance.

    Engine_5021.jpg Engine_5017.jpg Engine_5018.jpg Engine_5020.jpg
     
  2. Barry

    Barry Well-Known Member

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    Robert

    It is almost certainly a 1600cc Type 1 motor
    It is also more than likely a replacement motor

    The number on it is not a “standard” engine number but aftermarket cases are unstamped and it has been added.
    I have seen all sorts of numbers - usually the are something that relates to a Police Number

    A 1975 could well have come as a 1600

    Is there an engine hatch on the storage area or only the rear hatch?
     
  3. cbus

    cbus Well-Known Member

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    Single port so not out of the 75.
     
  4. Robert D

    Robert D New Member

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    Cheers Barry - there is a removable hatch above the engine into the main van area. I wasn't sure if you could get single port 1600's or not.
     
  5. cbus

    cbus Well-Known Member

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    You can but not in a late bay . 70 would be latest.
     
  6. Barry

    Barry Well-Known Member

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    Then the original engine was more than likely a Type 4 1800 cc.

    Whilst this motor will fit and work you may need to change gear box to suit.

    Can you post a pic of the gear box?
    There should be 3, 5 or 6 “ribs” on it
     
  7. Robert D

    Robert D New Member

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    gear box 2019-01-31 at 14.46.56.jpg Looks like three ribs.
     
  8. Barry

    Barry Well-Known Member

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  9. Barry

    Barry Well-Known Member

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    Hmmmm.................my guess is the the engine is a South African one

    https://www.aircooledvwsa.co.za/viewtopic.php?t=33069

    What does the compliance plate say?

    Should be located behind the driver seat on the fire wall?
     
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  10. Barry

    Barry Well-Known Member

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    "1300 beetle SFF single port"

    So a 1300 - not a 1600

    Probably wont want to but that one back in

    Could turn it into a 1600 - but better off with a better / later dual relief case etc etc and get a 1600

    Maybe put some bigger barrels in and get a 1776 of 1916
     
  11. Robert D

    Robert D New Member

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    Engine_2650.jpg Here's the plate.
     
  12. Barry

    Barry Well-Known Member

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    So an 1975 Australian van - 2 seater with a South African motor
     
  13. tintop

    tintop Well-Known Member

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    may as well pull a head off and see what diameter piston you have. 1300s have the same stroke (69) as a 1500s and 1600s.

    The bore increases the capacity (77, 83, 85.5)
     
  14. Robert D

    Robert D New Member

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    Cheers for all the help guys. I'll assume that at some stage in the van's recent history, someone has take the 1800 out of it and put their 1300 into a box inside it. I can't find an under-engine cross member anywhere amongst the piles to even let me see if it fits.
    I'll scour the local adverts for a donor 1600 or 1800 to get working on. Won't waste my time with this one. Thanks again.
     
  15. tintop

    tintop Well-Known Member

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    I'd go with a 1.8 litre because that's what it most likely came with....your '1300' might actually be a 1600 anyway (as per post 13)...same as you can have a 1.7 litre CA case that's actually a 1.8 litre
     

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