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95 Octane fuel?

Discussion in 'Performance' started by LonePiper, Mar 21, 2014.

  1. cbus

    cbus Well-Known Member

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    Same result but probably due to the low flashpoint of the components.
     
  2. BrissyGeorge

    BrissyGeorge Active Member

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    hey da split,

    Bit of a throw away line re all BP fuels having ethanol - its my go to fuel and it would be sad if I had to switch. Any evidence or proof of the ethanol

    George
     
  3. AC-T3

    AC-T3 Well-Known Member

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    Yes I have to agree that E10 does not run well in older VW's (nor older Subaru, Holden, Toyota, Falcon, and the list goes on) and is one fuel I refuse to put in my VW. Another strong reason for not buying Ethanol based fuels is because globally the ethanol industry is in direct competition with 3rd World countries for grains - the basic food stuff of millions. It has been well documented that with the rise of the ethanol fuel industry, the global price of these basic 3rd World foods has risen faster than would otherwise be the case meaning that the poor and starving are being forced to subsidise the global motoring enthusiast (OK Brazil may be an exception). So I for one refuse to put starving 3rd World children into my fuel tank just so I can save a few cents - it's 95, 98 or nothing. By the way, LPG at 112 Octane burns very, very smoothly. This is my fuel of choice until I can try CNG at 120 Octane.

    Rob
     
  4. BrissyGeorge

    BrissyGeorge Active Member

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    Rob,

    I wasn`t trying to start a philosophical debate re the socio economic impacts of ethanol on third world countries - all I wanted to know is what proof is there to the claim that da split made that all BP fuels (my preferred brand) contain ethanol - if its the case, I shall switch to something else.
     
  5. chenko

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    i too have always used BP 98 in my golf and bus ......at least in the golf it seems to run the best on
    with shell a close 2nd .....mobil was preferred before but they don't exist now?

    i stay away from caltex unless i am desperate
     
  6. BrissyGeorge

    BrissyGeorge Active Member

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    Just checked the BP site and the Data Sheet for BP 95 says it contains:
    Petrol 86290-81-5 >90
    Contains:
    Benzene 71-43-2 <1
    tert-butyl alcohol 75-65-0 <1
    tert-butyl methyl ether 1634-04-4 <1
    Polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs) mixture <1
    diisopropyl ether 108-20-3 <1

    I`m not a chemisty but I don`t think any of the additives are ethonol. "da split" you might like to comment where you got your info from.
     
  7. rstucke

    rstucke Well-Known Member

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    hi
    only just looked at this thread
    look closely
    tert-butyl methyl ether 1634-04-4 <1
    tert-butyl alcohol 75-65-0 <1
    = ethanol
    da split was right
     
  8. cbus

    cbus Well-Known Member

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    trace amounts . certainly not equall to the 10% stuff
     
  9. wirrah

    wirrah Well-Known Member

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    Can't see it at all. Butyl alcohol is not ethanol...

    PS. Unless I'm missing something here (which is always possible)
     
    Last edited: Dec 28, 2014
  10. oldman

    oldman Super Moderator Staff Member

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    hi
    only just looked at this thread
    look closely
    tert-butyl methyl ether 1634-04-4 <1
    tert-butyl alcohol 75-65-0 <1
    = ethanol
    da split was right

    …sorry I'm no chemist, could you please explain how all that above = ethanol …?
     
  11. rstucke

    rstucke Well-Known Member

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    Both of these substances are miscible with water . They are derived from alcohol (natural or synthetic). This is the stuff that is hygroscopic, affects some rubber compounds and some plastics. Aren't these the reason for staying away from petrol with alcohol additives (ethyl, methyl or butyl). And yes on re-reading the amount is small, my mistake but I'm still happy to stay away from anything that's going to chew into the fuel system no matter how minor.
     
  12. Alpal

    Alpal Moderator Staff Member

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    Oils ain't Oils!!
     
  13. chris taylor

    chris taylor Well-Known Member

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    Totally agree, I now use 98 and it runs reel sweet, has plenty of get up and go, wont go back to lower octane again , I have been told that it takes a few tank fulls before you will really feel the difference,
     
  14. Ian w

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  15. Ian w

    Ian w New Member

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    I often use BP, did I read correctly that they have ethanol in all their fuel? Surely they would have to declare this?
     
  16. Ian w

    Ian w New Member

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    Sorry should have red the whole forum before commenting, only a bag inner.
     
  17. saabman

    saabman Well-Known Member

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    How come something like fuel evokes such passionate claims from either side of the debate.

    The properties of fuel "should" be well documented and tested in controlled environments.
    Conspiricy theory's aside.

    Very few of us would have the time and access to the equipment to conduct repeatable scientific testing. For the most part our experiences are subject to a large range of variables which have the potential to make the results any of our experiential testing null and void.

    It's a bit like man influanced climate change :eek:
     
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  18. syncro

    syncro Well-Known Member

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    I like the way that people try to justify using the cheapest low octane fuel.
     
  19. oldman

    oldman Super Moderator Staff Member

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    ....some folks at my workplace reckon International Roast is as good as an Espresso from a machine.......
    I know which one makes me go better !! :D
    Cheers,
    Mark
     
  20. cbus

    cbus Well-Known Member

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    yeah
    you're right Mark
    used to have caterers blend at a restaurant I worked at.
    got rid of customers.
    back in the 80's but a shocking thing to leave the last taste for customers a bad one .
    thank goodness we [and customers] have learnt.
     

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