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Another T3 wheel thread! Best sizing and specs for widened steel wheels

Discussion in 'T3 & T4 Tech Help Clinic' started by JoshJosh, Jan 13, 2019 at 6:18 PM.

  1. JoshJosh

    JoshJosh New Member

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    Hi guys.
    New member, first post, 10 year owner of an 89 2.1. Brisbane, QLD.
    After the last short decade I have decided to give the van a birthday and gift her new new slippers and springs/shocks.
    I’ve decided to go for bilstein shocks and custom lowered springs, height dependant of what size wheels and what they hit underneath obviously.
    I am rather interested in rebarrelling a set of 16/17 inch Mercedes steel wheels. Was just wondering if anyone had any advice or specifics as to what size/width/offset I could comfortably run with no need for spacers front and back.
    All replies greatly appreciated :)
    Hope the summer has been kind to your t3 cooling systems, and for you aircooled guys, I’m jealous hahaha
    Cheers ladies and gents
     
    Last edited: Jan 13, 2019 at 6:59 PM
  2. rstucke

    rstucke Well-Known Member

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    I've got a set of 14" x 7.5" ROH modified steelies and hub caps
    that came of a t3 if your interested
     
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  3. JoshJosh

    JoshJosh New Member

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    Thanks for your replie mate.
    I appreciate the offer but I’m looking to increase the diameter as well.
    Where are you located?
    If they’re cheap and local I could be interested :)
    Cheers buddy
     
  4. rstucke

    rstucke Well-Known Member

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    Wamberal $200
    have to check but I think there is 5 of each
     
  5. JoshJosh

    JoshJosh New Member

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    A bit far for me sorry mate. I’m in Brisbane.
    Thanks anyway :)
     
  6. Dapom

    Dapom Well-Known Member

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    Hey mate :) Mercedes c class w204 had 16x7 et31 steels. With a set of small ball seat nuts they bolt straight on. They’re not easy to find...
    Good luck!
     
  7. Luckyphil

    Luckyphil Well-Known Member

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    Courier is not very expensive for wheels, I have sent a couple of sets, if just sending rims I go to Bob Jane Tmart and get some used wheel boxes from their dumpster. As matter of fact great packing and boxes can also be found in the dumpsters at Bing Lee JB HiFi etc.
     
  8. Syncro27

    Syncro27 Well-Known Member

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    My Merc alloys are 16 inch with ET23 and fit perfect. You can comfortably use up to ET31 but the 37's are questionable without spacers (which are illegal in NSW)

    I noted from Smallcar brake upgrades that they recommend 15 inch alloys or 16 inch steelies as the steel wheels seem to have welded lugs that interfere with the brakes.

    Be careful of that if going larger brake upgrades...
     
  9. Barry

    Barry Well-Known Member

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    Use this to play with offsets
    https://www.1010tires.com/Tools/Wheel-Offset-Calculator

    I run 17" x 7" ET40 all round and only have minor rubbing on the front when you attach a steep drive at an angle

    i have good results with some custom lowered springs - but now run H&R
    If you look on ebay they can be bought cheap

    Here is an example
    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/H-R-low...5:g:pWQAAOSw4WRa8zfh:rk:2:pf:1&frcectupt=true

    Bilstein is a good choice in my opinion
    If going 2" drop consider shorter shocks
    Standard beetle for the back and Nissan Nivara for the front
    This is what I am running
    You need to get a different bit for the lower bolt on the front - the split grommet things
    Michael at Vintage Vee Dub in Campsie NSW can help there
     
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  10. Luckyphil

    Luckyphil Well-Known Member

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    Are these the ones, on the blue van, I sold to a local so could be?
    [​IMG]
     
  11. rstucke

    rstucke Well-Known Member

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    You sold them to me, but I ended up using alloys plus they're a little wide for the rear of a t2
    there is 4 with 5 pretty good hub caps
     
  12. hairyman

    hairyman Active Member

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    Thanks for the link. In the item description they say they offer both progressive and linear spring rates. Progressive sound like they would be more comfortable for street driving but is that correct?
     
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  13. Barry

    Barry Well-Known Member

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    Not sure
    The rear spring is like dual wound?
    Top part of the spring looks different to the bottom.

    I bought mine for much more but Dapom(sp?) got his for like $400 landed

    I will try and dig up both links when I’m home on my computer and not my phone
     
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  14. Dapom

    Dapom Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I scored great exchange rate and got them for just over $300 landed which was a win!
    Theyre rated at -45 but I ended up at
    -65 front and -40 rear. Ride is firm....good to look out for potholes.....they hurt lol I really like the springs though :)
     
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  15. nils

    nils Well-Known Member

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    I happen to know where there are a few hundred of them.
    P & I Herscheid Restorations
    Mechanics & Motor Engineers - Salt Ash, NSW 2318
    2866 Nelson Bay Rd, Salt Ash NSW 2318
    Phone
    (02) 4982 6450

    Not an easy guy to deal with nor will you get them cheap, but he has tons
     
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