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COVID-19

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by TeeBee, Mar 24, 2020.

  1. Wiz

    Wiz Well-Known Member

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    NSW and Victoria:
    All travellers who have been in any overseas country during the 14-day period before their arrival in the state must travel directly to their place of residence or accommodation and isolate for 72 hours, pending further health advice.
    PR
     
  2. Alpal

    Alpal Moderator Staff Member

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    Had the jabs and waiting for the booster. Not failure proof but cheap insurance.
     
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  3. Grantus

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    Pretty much all we can do! Get both shots, and a booster when it comes around, hope for the best, and just roll with it……
     
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  4. syncro

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    It's just like wearing a seatbelt. Risk minimisation.

    I was vaccinated because I was advised by doctors, not by the government.
     
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  5. cbus

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    Remember when breast cancer meant whole breast removal plus half shoulder muscles.?
    Seemed every second kid needed tonsils removed.?
    Lobotomy was a great cure for depression
    And drs rejected any suggestion that stomach ulcers could be cured with antibiotics. ?
     
  6. oldman

    oldman Super Moderator Staff Member

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    So, just playing Devil’s advocate Col, who would you place your care with if you contracted Covid ?
    Not many successful options to a well equipped ICU with appropriately trained medical professionals , including doctors.
    I’ve been vaccinated for purely selfish reasons………I reckon there is a 99% chance that I will come into contact with C19, or a variant, in the future. I’m over 60 and whilst my health is very good, am not prepared to risk my remaining time above ground.
    Medicine, like most professional areas , learns from the past……it’s a constantly evolving field.
    We also used to think.that meat and two veg. was normal fare……

    Look after yourself mate……..please.
    Cheers,
    Mark
     
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  7. cbus

    cbus Well-Known Member

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    Totally agree.
    I go with specialisation not inclusion. ;)

    Just also playing the balancing viewpoints that drs are not gods as they liked to be considered.
    I back science but understand that it's delivered by people who often have limitations and biases.
    Science is a progressive learning.
    Not some revelation a mountain top while in a drug induced / starved delusional state

    My decision so far is based on probabilities. ;)
     
  8. Alpal

    Alpal Moderator Staff Member

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    My decision so far is based on probabilities. ;)

    Probability and percentages is why we decided to get the jab. Chance of contracting the virus vs chance of a negative reaction. Chance of a serious impact if we became ill, both short and long term.
     
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  9. Wiz

    Wiz Well-Known Member

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    Without a Medical Laboratory Scientist your Dr is only guessing.
    PR
     
  10. oldman

    oldman Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I would suggest that most Drs. are basing their advice on this type of info., as is NSW Health.
    Can’t speak for other States or Territories ….
    Cheers,
    Mark
     
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  11. cbus

    cbus Well-Known Member

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    Depends on the subject in qn but I do trust that most GP's and specialists usualy have an adequate suppository/ respository of relevant knowledge for their occupation.
    It's just that scientific bias does exist along with the occasional numnut.
    I happen to have come across both.
    But it's always best to at least start with someone who has had certified training in whatever field we seek such expertise. ;)
     
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  12. syncro

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    An animal lover who refused to get the COVID vaccine because it wasn’t vegan has died from the virus, telling his wife he wished he had got the jab.

    Glynn Steel, 54, from Worcestershire in the UK, refused the vaccine in a stand against animal testing.

    But before he died on November 16, he said to his wife Emma, “I have never felt so ill, I wish I’d had the vaccine,” The Sun reports.

    Steel had fought the virus for two weeks in intensive care before losing the battle.

    His devastated wife, who is fully vaccinated, is now urging people to get vaccinated against COVID, saying she now faces “an empty future alone”.

    “I insist to everyone I know to get the vaccine,” she said, describing her husband’s death as “heart-wrenching”.

    “He begged for the vaccine when he was in intensive care before he went on life support but they said that it was too late,” she said.

    “He was a very gentle soul, he was a vegan and didn’t want the COVID vaccine because it was tested on animals.”

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    Glynn Steel loved animals. Credit: GoFundMe/Glynn Steel’s Memorial
    Mr Steel was planning to retire and spend time looking after his animals and doing more travel.

    But on October 27, he tested positive for coronavirus, after initially thinking he just had a cold.

    He quickly got worse and was taken to Worcestershire Royal Hospital on November 2.

    By November 10, he was on life support and in an induced coma, dying 20 minutes after his life support was turned off on November 16.

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    Glynn Steel’s condition deteriorated quickly and he died on November 16. Credit: GoFundMe/Glynn Steel’s Memorial
    “I was with him when he died,” his wife said.

    “I was wearing a full PPE kit so I couldn’t touch him, but they played his favourite music by the Sex Pistols and I stayed with him until the end.”

    A GoFundMe page launched to help pay for his funeral expenses said Mr Steel would be forever missed and loved.

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    Glynn Steel told his wife he wished he’d had the COVID vaccine. Credit: GoFundMe/Glynn Steel’s Memorial
    “On Tuesday 16th November 2021, we heartbreakingly lost our husband, uncle, son, brother, and brother-in-law, Glynn, to the terrible virus that is COVID-19,” his niece Charlotte wrote.

    “After falling ill very quickly, Glynn was placed in intensive care, and then an induced coma.

    “Within just a week, he slipped away.”
     
  13. syncro

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    After hearing about the reduction of boosters from 6 months to 5 months I walked in to a chemist this morning to make enquiries. Chemist said we are just opening a new vial of Pfizer do you want it now? How lucky was that.

    Car show and swap meet at Bathurst on Sunday. A person was removed for not being vaccinated.
     
  14. cbus

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    As from today all people entering Qld with covid will have been double vaccinated.
     
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    or unvaccinated...
     
  16. oldman

    oldman Super Moderator Staff Member

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    .....at least they will be protected from the inevitable
    ……don’t think so Chuck.
    To cross the border you must prove double vacc. and have a negative test within 72 hrs of crossing, according to the news tonight, ;)
    Cheers,
    Mark
     
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  17. cbus

    cbus Well-Known Member

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    But they still bring it into the state.
     
  18. AC-T3

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    Sorry, so why doesn't Qld succeed from the commonwealth? Would keep you all safe from us southerners.
     
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  19. oldman

    oldman Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Qld. would continue to suffer enormously if the borders stayed shut…..
    Tourism is the top earner and without it the cost to the State via unemployment would skyrocket.
    There are only so many restaurants, hotels and tour operators etc., that can survive on local business.
    Don’t ignore the C19 positive cases in the community that have yet to be detected nor the vacc. Qld. folks that will come in to contact with them inevitably……
    As John Donne penned,
    “No man is an island….”
    Me?…..I could quite happily exist with minimal contact, however this is more than just me.
    Cheers,
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  20. cbus

    cbus Well-Known Member

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    All this from the state that caused the most outbreaks .;)
    Isolation is a good idea till the pandemic subsides , which it would do naturally, eventually.
    With closed borders basically we operate as normal.
    Tourism and drs as it has previously.
    It jumped on the Japs market then the Chinese one etc , ignoring local travellers.
    As each boom time market collapsed the came crawling back to cater for the local market.
    There has been a boom in vehicle sales of campers and caravans with covid.
    Most local restaurants that survive have a strong local following as they have learned not to depend on holiday numbers.
    This lesson was learned a few years back when there were 3 holiday periods in a row let st to floods / heavy rains.
    Many of the restaurants that relied on interstate tourists didn't survive.
    With everyone restricted from overseas travel there has been a lot of excess cash available to spend on other items.
    So it would be interesting to see the balance sheet between incoming and outgoing cash flows due to travel/ tourism.
     
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