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Engine Sizes

Discussion in 'Performance' started by SlownLow, Apr 7, 2012.

  1. SlownLow

    SlownLow Member

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    If we are talking about performance.
    I'd love to find a summary of the engines available to the classic twin port for a split or early bay.

    Does any know some links on here or elsewhere I can read up on Engines
    And the difference between:
    1600
    1641
    1776
    1835
    1916
    2000+
    2007cc, 2110cc and 2276cc.

    The benefits of each and why ratios are why they are and what u get back from going bigger and bigger

    and the pros cons etc..
     
    Last edited: Apr 17, 2012
  2. SlownLow

    SlownLow Member

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    Ok.. Been doing some reading this weekend. More confused than anything else.

    Can any one explains what a short block engine is?

    Also can anyone share any links or info on the engines in my prev post?
     
  3. robmich

    robmich Active Member

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    Hi its my understanding a short block is an engine block only with out all the parts on like carbs ,distributer,heads ect
    Rob
     
  4. max auto

    max auto Member

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    short block is ... block and internals no heads.... long block is block and heads... complete or turn key is the lot
     
  5. oldman

    oldman Super Moderator Staff Member

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    ^^ That's my (limited) understanding too......
     
  6. SlownLow

    SlownLow Member

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    Dropped into Jimmy's this evening... Checked out an engine.. He said the same thing.. Jim you might be more of an expert than you thought.
     
  7. SlownLow

    SlownLow Member

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    Does anyone know much about the diff sizes? Or can anyone provide some links for reading?
     
  8. geoff62sw

    geoff62sw Member

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    Hay Paul

    Are you looking to hot up your donk?
    The standard 1600 crank case is machined to have the 1600 pots and a 1641 is the origanals pot opened up to the next ring size,I'm not sure just where the pots sizes change I'm not sure
    but when you go bigger/bigger,bigger pots you have to remachine the holes in the crank case where the pots sit.......
    Custom Bug and Bus have a nice web site and a nice section on engine
    shot block,long block and tune key engines...good prices too
    cheers paul

    geoff
     
    Last edited: Apr 9, 2012
  9. SlownLow

    SlownLow Member

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  10. Don't forget type 4 engines!! Not hard to fit into a split and are factory in mid to late bays. Can build a type 4 up to 3.1L if you have the cash.
     
  11. SlownLow

    SlownLow Member

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    interesting.. have a 1641 and looking to go bigger.. maybe 1916
     
  12. KombiMadness

    KombiMadness Well-Known Member

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    Paul, also check out Rod Penrose's new website http://www.rodpenroseracing.com.au/
    and click on 'complete engines'. He builds turn key (everything balanced & tuned and ready to go) for reasonable prices. He says the 1916cc is his favourite daily runner engine.

    Give him a call and have a chat.....
     
  13. ian.mezz

    ian.mezz New Member

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    http://lowbugget.com/main_page.html

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyDdS4EIYS8&feature=user

    1600cc 69mm x 85.5mm
    Long block 35x32mm valve heads $2989.99
    Carb Turnkey dual 40mm carbs, 1 3/8" ceramic header and muffler $4919.99 (55hp)
    Add a Transmission for $299.99 more!
    With 24 month / 24,000 mile warranty!


    1641cc 69mm x 87mm
    Tong block 35x32mm valve heads $2999.99
    Carb Turnkey dual 40mm carbs, 1 3/8" ceramic header and muffler $4929.99 (65hp)


    1776cc 69mm x 90.5mm
    Long block 35x32mm valve heads $3199.99
    Carb Turnkey dual 40mm carbs, 1 3/8"ceramic header and muffler $45129.99 (75hp)
    12 month / 12,000 mile warranty!


    1835cc 69mm x 92mm
    Long block 35x32mm valve heads $3199.99
    Carb Turnkey dual 40mm carbs, 1 3/8" ceramic header and muffler $4619.99 (85hp)


    1915cc 69mm x 94mm
    Long block 40x35mm valve heads $3249.99
    Carb Turnkey dual 40mm carbs, 1 1/2" ceramic header and muffler $4669.99 (110hp/100tq reliably)
    Turbo Turnkey T3 225hp turbo system, Crank Trigger, Aluminum Super Case and Wiseco Forged pistons $6419.99
    Go for a ride in a 300hp 1915 turbo drag bug at 14lbs boost and make a 10.90 pass!!! (race only combo)

    2007cc 78mm x 90.5mm
    Long block 40x35mm valve heads $3499.99
    Carb Turnkey dual 40mm carbs, 1 1/2" ceramic header and muffler $5429.99 (115hp/120tq reliably)


    2110cc 82mm x 90.5mm
    Long block 40x35mm valve heads $3599.99
    Carb Turnkey dual 44mm carbs, 1 5/8"ceramic header and muffler $5529.99 (130hp/140tq reliably)
    Turbo Turnkey T3 225hp turbo system, Crank Trigger, Aluminum Super Case and Wiseco Forged pistons $7619.99
    Go for a ride in a daily driver 2110cc turbo street car at 5lbs boost

    2165cc 78mm x 94mm
    Long block 40x35mm valve heads $3599.99
    Carb Turnkey dual 44mm carb, 1 5/8" ceramic header and muffler $5529.99 (135hp/145tq reliably)
    Turbo Turnkey T3 225hp Turbo System, Crank Trigger, Aluminum Super Case,Wiseco Forged Pistons $7619.99
    Go for a ride in a 2165cc powered turbo Bus combo at 5lbs of boost on the streets!

    2276cc 82mm x 94mm
    Long block 40x35mm valve heads $3599.99
    Carb Turnkey dual 44mm carb, 1 5/8"ceramic header and muffler $5529.99
    Turbo Turnkey T3 225hp turbo system, Crank Trigger, Aluminum Super Case, Wiseco Forged pistons $7619.99

    2332cc 84mm x 94mm
    Long block 42x37mm valve heads $3699.99 Ported & polished heads add $500
    Carb Turnkey 44mm Dual IDF carb kit, 1 3/4"ceramic header and muffler $5629.99 Ported & polished heads add $500
    Turbo Turnkey T3/T4 275hp turbo system, Crank Trigger, Aluminum Super Case and Wiseco Forged pistons $7819.99

    2387cc 86mm x 94mm
    Long Block 42x37mm valve heads,"H" Beam rods, Long Barrels, Alum Super Case. $4899.99 Ported & polished heads add $600
    Carb Turnkey dual 46mm carb, 1 5/8"ceramic header and muffler $6829.99 Ported & polished heads add $600
    Turbo Turnkey T3/T4 275hp turbo system, Crank Trigger, Aluminum Super Case and Wiseco Forged pistons $8919.99
    Go for a ride in a 2387cc turbo car make a 6.80sec pass in the 1/8 mile

    2443cc 88mm x 94mm
    Long block 44x37mm valve heads, "H" Beam rods, Long Barrels, Alum Super Case. $5299.99 Ported & polished heads add $600
    Carb Turnkey dual 48mm IDA's, MSD, 1 3/4"ceramic header and muffler $8214.99 Ported & polished heads add $600
    Turbo Turnkey 325hp GT35 turbo system, Crank Trigger, Aluminum Super Case and Wiseco Forged pistons $9339.99
     
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  14. kombi-man

    kombi-man Member

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    I have a CBB "Gold Spec" fuel injected engine in my bus, fitted by the previous owner.
    It has plenty of power and seems to have been very reliable, it was fitted in July 2007 and I bought the bus in Feb this year.
    Apart from an oil leak or two I am very happy with it.
     
  15. Squidy

    Squidy Well-Known Member

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    Be interested to hear what you do as I'm thinking about heading the same way ... More POWER :)
     
  16. vwfreak03

    vwfreak03 Well-Known Member

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    Your missing one

    1679

    I had one (built one in the uk) and was very happy...

    Its the biggest cc you can go on a 1600 engine without bigger heads ect ect
     
  17. vassy69SC

    vassy69SC Active Member

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    Although I have a 2165 (94mm barrels/pistons and 78mm crank) I would stick with 90.5mm barrels/pistons for a bus and go large on the stroke.
    It would give better cooling (though my engine doesn't hit above 90 degrees), less crankcase pressure and be a more bus friendly package IMHO.
     
  18. damo99

    damo99 New Member

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    i would also only use either 90.5 or thick wall 92mm barrels and pistons in a bus ,, 1641 or 1670's are short lived excitment in a bus,to thin in the barrells
    i wouldn't use a bigger than 78mm crank either.
    but for me its a type 4 76mm crank stock 94 barrells/ pistons very torquey combination with plenty of power
     

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