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Hot Foot Syndrome

Discussion in 'T3 & T4 Tech Help Clinic' started by rowansnow, Nov 25, 2019.

  1. rowansnow

    rowansnow Member

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    I have used some Roof Flashing Tape to try and stop heat radiating from around the new Radiator. I used - Aluminium backed with rubber/butyl adhesive used for weather sealing joints and seams around the radiator before I changed it. I dont think it worked though I still notice radiant heat from the floor. Its a Syncro..

    Also some hot air coming in on the feet with the controls in the off position.

    Any advice on that?

    Cheers

    Rowan
     

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  2. Barry

    Barry Well-Known Member

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    Don’t think roof flashing has much thermal properties.
    Might be better with some Armaflex sheets.
    Like the black foam on fridge pipes?

    I find air always come out - it’s either up or down.
    Believe it’s the foam on the flaps?
    You can get a kit from somewhere that shuts off air coming in the vent behind the head light grille.

    The hot air is your valve not shutting off properly.

    It is either the wire has kinked or the valve is jammed

    Simple solution is a fuel clamp on the inlet heater pipe in summer
     
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  3. Luckyphil

    Luckyphil Well-Known Member

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    Caravelle floor insulation helps a lot but wont work well under rubber mats. I wouldn't use a fuel clamp as it will eventually stuff the hose. I put an inline valve in my heater feed hose up under the clam shell, works great just switch it on or off depending on time of year. You can put it in behind the vent cover just in front of the gear stick so it can be reached without getting under the van. My problem is caused by the heater valve not shutting off completely due to the control cable not allowing enough movement due to my custom dash design.
     
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  4. Maccas

    Maccas Member

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    For many years now there's been advertised in USA an inline front heater shutoff valve to solve this issue. At the following link, scroll down till you find it:
    http://vanagonwestfaliaaccessories.com

    Apparently it's an exact fit for the size of the heater hose.
    Phill, is yours, sourced locally, similar to this US solution, if so can you tell us where to find it please. Ta.
     
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  5. Grantus

    Grantus Well-Known Member

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    Good find! :)

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  6. Maccas

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    My thinking in choosing to only give the link was so readers can get to view the full gammit of interesting parts to savor! Enjoy!
     
  7. Barry

    Barry Well-Known Member

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    Mmmm..... might grab one
     
  8. Luckyphil

    Luckyphil Well-Known Member

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    Mine is this exact one, I also have a spare as I bought 2 would sell for $40
     
  9. Wattie

    Wattie Well-Known Member

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    I fitted a cable operated 5/8" universal heater tap way back when living in Perth.
    The cable and tap was sourced from Repco and I mounted the cable through the lower dash next to the steering column cover
    2nd heater tap R.jpg
     
  10. Luckyphil

    Luckyphil Well-Known Member

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    As usual Geoff a very nice solution :)
     
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  11. Maccas

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    Could you reserve it for me please. Ta.
     
  12. Luckyphil

    Luckyphil Well-Known Member

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    OK
     
  13. rowansnow

    rowansnow Member

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    Have sourced replavement heater tap as the cable was not bent. I have measured up with cardboard the area and cut some auto insulation from under a car bonnet to fit. That should fix it in theory..
     

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  14. Syncro27

    Syncro27 Well-Known Member

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    This is awesome - great idea.

    Thankfully both of my T3s dont need it ....yet
     
  15. Andy.

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    Looks like a standard plumbing fitting.
    I put two in the hoses to the rear heater when I installed mine. I bought the taps and fittings from Powell Industrial in Brisbane.
     
  16. Wattie

    Wattie Well-Known Member

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    Note about OEM heater taps.
    Before fitting if you close the tap fully to off, then look at the valve spool you will see a very small groove connecting the two ports together,
    I assume this calibrated leak is to assist in the elimination of potential air locks in the heating circuit.
    The problem arises in a 30+ year old T3 with the seals on the heater control flaps having rotted away allowing a low airflow over the
    heater core.
    I took the cowards way out rather than dismantling the dash and heater unit to replace the air control flap seals and just fitted a
    aftermarket heater tap instead, see post #9 this tread.
     
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  17. syncro

    syncro Well-Known Member

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    Typical T3 people looking for a problem the doesn't exist. Hot foot syndrome is a completely different thing for LHD. This should be called old worn out heater valve syndrome. They have sold millions of these valves and all of a sudden the Australian T3 owners think they need to redesign them.:rolleyes:
     
  18. Luckyphil

    Luckyphil Well-Known Member

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    Well we are smarter. And as Geoff said above its probably not the valve so much as the worn or missing foam seals on the heater box itself. The LHD version of the problem is the same as ours plus the location of the gas pedal right at the outlet and the common to both of us, warm floor from the radiator heat right at the gas pedal.
     
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  19. syncro

    syncro Well-Known Member

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    Think about what you wrote. If the valve stops the heating what difference does the foam seal do? It is not a constant flow heater. They do not have valves.
     
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  20. grumble

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