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Kombi pink slip troubles... original pop top or conversion? Engineers report required

Discussion in 'Kombi Club' started by ross1231, May 28, 2017.

  1. ross1231

    ross1231 Member

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    Hi all!

    This is my first kombi club post from my partner's account, so please excuse the newby-ness!

    We went to get a pink slip for our Kombi yesterday so we could finally re-register her and take her on many weekend trips before our first bub arrives, but it wasn't to be!

    Our Kombi is a 1974 Kombi with VIN 2342 .... which is the same number on the plate behind the driver's seat. It has a pop-top and to the best of our knowledge and the person who restored her, she is an "original" pop top not a conversion.

    However, as soon as the pink slip mechanic looked at her he said she was an after-market conversion and needed a engineer's report for the pop top and he couldn't understand how it had been registered in the first place, leaving us very shocked and confused!

    Can someone please shine a light on this? Is it an "original" pop top or a conversion? How do we know or find out? If it is a conversion, how can we find out if it's had an engineer's report done previously?

    In addition, the mechanic said that it had been registered with the shape of "panel van with side windows" which is also incorrect, and needs to be registered as a mobile home. Can anyone confirm this?

    On our CTP insurance, she is recorded as a "1974 Voklwagen Kombi Mcara", does this stand for motor caravan?

    This is all so very confusing! o_O

    Any other help would be most appreciated! Thanks in advance :)
     
  2. Barry

    Barry Well-Known Member

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    Unless it is a Westfalia camper is it an aftermarket conversion
    Some of them were "VW approved" but after market none the less

    As such, will need an engineers report

    A Westfalia was based on a sun roof VW model and was designed to have a big hole in the roof
    All the others had a hole cut in the roof and "modified" to be a camper
     
  3. Wayne murray

    Wayne murray Well-Known Member

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    What I have heard from other people is once a kombi that has had a conversion done and run out of rego,when you go to re- register it.It must get a engineers report to meets today's standard. If it never went out of rego you would keep registering it as normal. There is also something to check with gas bottles in a camper van as well but can't remember what it is. Something to do with gas bottle has to be enclosed from the outside of the van and not enclosed from the inside of the vans cabinets.
     
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  4. David H

    David H Well-Known Member

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    Only if it has a plate behind the passengers seat (declaring the conversion) would it be original (ex factory???...it's a Sopru fibreglass top ). Just check. If you've got the plate you're in...if not it's engineering.
    Cheers
     
  5. Barry

    Barry Well-Known Member

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    I do not believe a Sopru is ex-factory

    Only VW approved
     
  6. melissa

    melissa Administrator Staff Member

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    Do you mean Blue slip? Pink slip is when it is renewing rego - Blue slip is when the rego has lapsed and the vehicle is unregistered.
    I think you need to find a mechanic that is kombi friendly and knows what to look for. The panel van with windows is what I have on my rego of my bays - but they are not pop tops.
     
  7. ross1231

    ross1231 Member

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    Thanks Barry - and to confirm, the Westfalia campers are the ones with a pop-top that go up on an angle?

    Is there anyway to check if it has had an engineer's report done before? And has been approved? I find it odd that it passed a blue slip 15 months ago with no mention of an engineer's report!

    We are located near Forster/Hallidays Point so am a bit unsure how we would locate an engineer! Thanks :)
     
  8. ross1231

    ross1231 Member

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    Thanks Wayne. This kombi had long run out of rego when it was "done-up" and then re-registered about 15 months ago and had a blue slip done, so you would think it would have been picked up then if that was the case! We currently only don't have a gas bottle/cook top so should be okay on that front! :)
     
  9. ross1231

    ross1231 Member

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    Hi David!
    Thanks for your reply. There is a plate behind the driver's seat but it only says

    "This vehicle was manufactured by Volkswagenwerk A.G to comply with Australian Design Rules Nos. 1.2.3.5A.6.7.8.11.12.14.15 4A.9.27.28 (this is stamped in a bigger font, looks like may have been stamped at a different time? But what do I know!)

    Volkswagen Transporter 234

    7/74 234 2 XXX XXX

    GVW 5070 LBS SEATING CAP. 2

    This plate is affixed with the approval of the Australian Motor Vehicle Certification Board."

    Does this tell us anything?
     
  10. ross1231

    ross1231 Member

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    Thanks Melissa!

    The rego has run out about 2 months and 3 weeks ago, so we are hurriedly trying to get it re-newed before we have to get a blue slip.

    We are taking it to a new mechanic on Tuesday, hopefully they will be kombi friendly and can help us out :)
     
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  11. David H

    David H Well-Known Member

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    Correct Barry. Wrong use of words on my behalf. Sopru "the only approved VW Kombi Camper kit". Sold from your local VW agent with all compliance plates attached.
    Cheers
     
  12. David H

    David H Well-Known Member

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    Yes it does.
    If no plate behind the pax seat it's an after market conversion as all originals were for 2 pax (from my behind drivers seat plate). 'Factory' (the ones sold in the VW showroom) had an additional plate (for conversion) behind passengers seat that upgraded seat capacity to 4. By Sopru.
    Cheers
     
    Last edited: May 28, 2017
  13. David H

    David H Well-Known Member

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  14. Mr Beckstar

    Mr Beckstar Well-Known Member

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    Here's my Campmobile compliance plate as an example of what David H is talking about.

    resized IMG_3789.jpg
     
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  15. Mr Beckstar

    Mr Beckstar Well-Known Member

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    Sopru was the most common VW factory conversion Australia wide for many years. Check out the "1973" section of the following article on Club Vee Dub, and "1977" too if you're keen:

    http://www.clubvw.org.au/history005
     
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  16. David H

    David H Well-Known Member

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    This plate upgraded to 4 the seating capacity.
    Cheers
     
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  17. Kombi Dad

    Kombi Dad Well-Known Member

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    I had to get an engineer's certificate to register my '82 camper (Mcara) in NSW. The conversion was done by Camping Industries in Sydney but was registered in the ACT when I purchased it. To do it in NSW I had to get the certificate to cover the pop top, the rear bed and the mounts for the fridge. Note the fridge mounts failed and I had to change them to comply. Cost in '98 was $250.00 for the certificate.

    Ian
     
  18. melissa

    melissa Administrator Staff Member

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    Just thinking outside the square for a moment (and this may not suit you) but what about going for Historic rego through a car club? How often are you going to use the kombi? I recently put one of mine on Historic and you can use it for 60 days with a log book and you are not restricted to just club events. Problem is they may still want a regular pink slip for the first year that you join but the difference in the cost is astounding - just under $100 for your rego, green slip and the plate!
     
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  19. Poptop

    Poptop Well-Known Member

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    Historic car rego as Melissa said, there's also 45 days (~$70). Insurance is cheaper. Car club mendeship for me is $50 per annum.

    In Vic, if you have the gas you need a certificate from a plumber, likewise electrical certificate from a electrician. You can get around it by disconnecting gas which is really easy and reversible.

    I let my camper get unregistered and had similar concerns however none of that eventuated. My road worthy certificate was issued by a VW specialist ( he arranged electrician) , that might be the better approach.

    Vic Roads did not want to see the vehicle.
     
  20. reelmick

    reelmick Active Member

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    Melissa,can you say what club that is? 90 movements seems generous ,my club is 60 movements (plenty) plus runs but no pink slip required for 1st rego, its a good system, but RMS is tightening up on clubs. Mick
     

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