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Need to purchase a 2lt gearbox.

Discussion in 'Engine & Transmission' started by 74 Olive Kombi, May 4, 2019.

  1. 74 Olive Kombi

    74 Olive Kombi New Member

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    Hello, Ive just ought a beautiful 74 bay window from NSW and am going to drop a recondition 2lt in him. I currently have 1600 engine with a 1600 gearbox but will be removing them and do not have a gearbox for the 2lt as of yet. I am currently waiting for transport across the nullabor to Perth, so I'am on the hunt for a good 2lt reconditioned gearbox, If anyone has one or knows of one for sale in Perth, it would be greatly appreciated. I am anew member to the Kombi Club and love the camaraderie felt amongst the members in the many threads I've read. Having two Kombies previously throughout my 20's, Ive bought a beautiful van, now that i have kids to show them how much fun they are and enjoy weekenders away.

    Fingers crossed theres a ripper over here somewhere ?
    Matty
     
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  2. galp

    galp Member

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    If you find a 2l gearbox make sure it comes with a starter as they are longer and particular only to 2l
    They are for sale but around the $500 mark exchange.
     
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  3. galp

    galp Member

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    Fitted 2l engine into a 74 this afternoon with a 3 rib gearbox utilising a die grinder to relieve where the clutch was contacting the bell housing
    I might upset some kombi lovers by doing this but can use a regular starter motor now
    Also going to be lower geared compared to 2l box as well with low profile tyres it should nearly be capable of a burnout
    Will have it running soon for a test drive
     
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  4. 74 Olive Kombi

    74 Olive Kombi New Member

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    HAHA a kombi doing burnouts ?? Thanks for the info Galp, im going to find out some info on the box as apparently it has been upgraded, and may be fine to use.
     
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  5. tintop

    tintop Well-Known Member

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    I once had a 2 litre mated to a 3 rib box...good acceleration but revs a couple of hundred higher on the highway. okay until you find something else. 5 rib box is also an okay alternative. I just swapped over the bellhousing, input shaft and starter...6 rib is ultimate if you can find one.
     
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  6. David H

    David H Well-Known Member

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    Bit of talent there galp;). Nice work.
    So what's the thing with the 2ltr starter/gearbox? Why does the pinion need to be longer:confused:? I guess the die grinder today was due to diameter of clutch in the bell housing?
    Cheers
     
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  7. gazman

    gazman Well-Known Member

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    The bellhousing is deeper - I had a picture somewhere. Can swap bellhousings if the budget wont pay for a starter ;)
     
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  8. KahunaKombi

    KahunaKombi Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Matty, welcome to the party that never ends ;) ..... congratulations on purchasing Whitie's (ex) kombi :D
     
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  9. Jethro

    Jethro Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, nice buy, great bus, love the swivel action on the passengers seat!
    Welcome aboard! Cant help with the gearbox, will keep an eye out.
    Cheers
    Geoff
     
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  10. 74 Olive Kombi

    74 Olive Kombi New Member

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    Thanks Kahuna , Im super excited the 2lt is mint and today I scored a 2lt box in perth so im getting it recond and slipping them both straight in.
    Thanks Jethro I managed to get one today
     
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  11. 74 Olive Kombi

    74 Olive Kombi New Member

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    Thanks for all the welcoming messages. I managed to pick up a box today and after a recon, will be slipping them both in . Any advise on gearing while I have it apart or leave it original?
     
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  12. KahunaKombi

    KahunaKombi Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Most leave the gearbox original ..... some who put higher performance engines in give 1st a few more legs (may require clearance adjustment to cope with the larger gear) and adjust for "highway cruising" :cool: but with pretty much everything standard then should be no need to change ratios ;)
     
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  13. cbus

    cbus Well-Known Member

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    As Bert said.
    Stock engine matches well with stock box ratios.
     
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  14. gazman

    gazman Well-Known Member

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    Yeah leave the ratio changes to the silly people doing things like cramming V6's in their kombis :rolleyes:
    Pic I mentioned earlier showing 1600 v 2lt bellhousings - 27072007749.jpg
     
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  15. 74 Olive Kombi

    74 Olive Kombi New Member

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    Cheers Gazman, I have decided to leave the box in it Tony had rebuilt prior, It has the same ratios as a 2lt in the 1600 from 1st to 3rd but a tall 4th gear installed to help with highway cruising whch is bloody everywhere over here , takes me 30min to get to the pub haha , gret pics mate they look identicle apart from the shafts?
     
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  16. gazman

    gazman Well-Known Member

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    The 2lt bellhousing is slightly longer, if I doodle on it in paint you can see the difference easier -
    27072007749aa.jpg
     
  17. 74 Olive Kombi

    74 Olive Kombi New Member

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    ok , so thats the bell housing difference that ive heard of so the whole motor end comes off the two litre and goes on the other one , ive been told that the rebuilt box in my van will habve a better cruising 4th gear now than the standard two litre box which i have and know no history of.
     
  18. cbus

    cbus Well-Known Member

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    As tintop mentioned....
    You will need to fit the 2 litre box input shaft, bell housing, starter motor to the 1600 box.
    The length of bell housing determines the starter and input shaft.

    Also ensure that a new spiggot bearing installed in the 2 litre crankshaft to run the input shaft.

    On a 1600 box the original shaft is supported differently.

    The wosp high torque starters from just campers and elsewhere are animal of choice over any cheapies or rebuild unless you find a good original and rebuild it localy at good price.
    If so check with gazman for reputable auto auto sparkie.
     
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  19. Barry

    Barry Well-Known Member

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    Very true
     
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