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Pop Top Conversion

Discussion in 'Kombi Club' started by Whitie, Jun 17, 2018.

  1. Whitie

    Whitie Well-Known Member

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    Just scored a supro pop top for our 75 bay, needs a bit of work but as an ex fibreglass boatbuilder, no prob.
    Love the classic character of a tin tops but our thoughts over recent years is to either convert or just pickup a T3 a camper.
    Doing lots of short weekend trips & looking for 'the make camp at sunset & gone in the morning'.
    After looking over some of the campers at Berry we reckon its the way.
    Is it simply cut a big mother hole & bolt in with some sika sealant like we did in the 80's or do we add structural support, engineers cert & adjust insurance, etc
    Any thoughts, experiences or ideas ?
    Tony
     
  2. KahunaKombi

    KahunaKombi Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Correct way would be to add structural support as after all cutting the roof out reduces the rigidity/strength of the roof o_O some other discussion(s) on this matter I think in the Bay Tech Clinic :rolleyes:
     
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  3. Barry

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    If you want to do it properly you would need to talk to an engineer first

    Pretty sure rstuckle is doing this now? See if i can find the link

    As it is a Sopru top - you will be cutting roof supports.
    So if will need something done to it

    I am unsure if the roof fibreglass roof does this, or the 100's of tubes of Sika or some underfloor bracing of roof bracing
    As said - the engineer will tell you.
     
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  4. Mordred

    Mordred Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Really, I would just leave the tin top as a tin top, and find another bus, and yes I understand that is hard. Tin tops are stronger in the body (based on the old way of cutting them out) and creak a lot less as there are less places for water to get in and rust them. The english mods all had to have belly pans fitted to make them acceptable but we never did them here. They are also generally worth more unmodified. You are unlikely to get your money back even if you fix the roof yourself as engineering certs aren't cheap. Work on it being worth the same as a converted one, add the cost of engineering and fixing the top and then it will still be worth about the same.

    Totally up to you, but I would weigh the pros and cons pretty heavily.

    Good luck

    Adrian
     
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  5. Whitie

    Whitie Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Kahuna, structural integrity maybe compromised, Ill look again for the other posts, cheers Tony
     
  6. Whitie

    Whitie Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Barry, yep its a supro & id need to cut through the middle roof support, imagine there would need to have some sort of additional supports or frames.
    Good advice on talking to an engineer before pulling out the tinsnips, a roofless kombi aint worth much.:eek:
     
  7. 68BUS

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    So what you are saying is have 2 busses. I like where this is heading.

    My 2 cents. If you are doing it then do it well and take lots of photos. Weld in belly pans but apply rust bullet or similar before you cover the sub structure.
    Not going to devalue if you have evidence that it is done right.
     
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  8. Whitie

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    Thanks Adrian, We do like her as a tintop & she's a really honest bus, very little rust, spent time & $$$ on her mechanically (as we do).
    Kinda reluctant to start all over again with another bus, so having a good base for conversion to camper sounded like an idea.
    Think Ill give it some more thought, cheers;)
     
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  9. Barry

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    If she is a keeper - then do what you want

    If it is a side thought...........than may be think carefully as your "re-coup" will be low.

    Personally I like the idea as a "properly" done camper is a good thing.
    Sadly I have seen way too many half arsed, rusted out, unengineered things sitting in garages chewing up $$$ unable to be registered.
     
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  10. jjdz

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    you love that van put the pop top on it you will love it more
     
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  11. David H

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  13. rstucke

    rstucke Well-Known Member

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    I did away with the bottom half of the poptop (the bit that sits on the roof) as it was an integral part of the cause of my rusted out roof.
    It's all finished and bespoke canvas is being added while this is being posted.
    I'll post some pictures of the journey shortly but be aware this will cause blood sweat and tears.
     
  14. rstucke

    rstucke Well-Known Member

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  16. 68BUS

    68BUS Well-Known Member

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    Love your work mate.
     
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  17. oldman

    oldman Super Moderator Staff Member

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    That’s really clever Rick.
    You could set up a business doing pop top conversion, conversions :D
    Love your work.
    Cheers,
    Mark
     
  18. Whitie

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    That's pure artwork, very talented
     
  19. rstucke

    rstucke Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the comments guys
     
  20. Grantus

    Grantus Well-Known Member

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    I think you’ve set the benchmark Rick, of the PROPER way to do a pop top conversation, pretty much guarenteed not to leak or rust, and last the next 40 years. :)
     
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