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Stolen kombi

Discussion in 'Buying and selling help' started by saabman, Aug 3, 2016.

  1. saabman

    saabman Well-Known Member

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    A couple of years ago a friend asked me to look at a kombi for someone he knew who was in the market for a kombi.
    No problems I had a look at the old girl and pointed out list of things that needed attention and pointed some areas that could be a problem and left it at that.

    I was talking to my friend today and he filled me in on the rest of the happenings. The person bought the kombi and proceed to get it fixed up and recently it was ready for rego. Getting it registered is where the trouble has begun - it turns out the kombi was reported stolen about 6 years ago.

    The current "owner" who has just spent I presume a reasonable sum buying the kombi than getting it repaired is now in a very unpleasant position.

    The point of this story is if your looking at buying a kombi or any other car for that matter - do your due diligence do at get a revs check done contact the rta make sure what you are buying is ripe for the buying.
     
  2. doom merchant

    doom merchant New Member

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    Yep that does sound like an unpleasant position ...
     
  3. oldman

    oldman Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Something a LOT of potential buyers wouldn't consider....
    A timely warning Bernie.
    Cheers,
    Mark
     
  4. saabman

    saabman Well-Known Member

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    So far it's looking a very sad end to what would have been a great experience. Hopefully something will work out to keep all the innocent parties involved happy. And the crook in the middle appropriately dealt with.
     
  5. vwkj87

    vwkj87 Active Member

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    I thought in Qld you can only do a REVS check for vehicle made after 1989? Can anyone confirm that? I'm about to go buy another Kombi.
     
  6. saabman

    saabman Well-Known Member

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    According to the revs site they can only check on vehicles with a 17 character VIN. Prior to 1989 Vin numbers varied between 11 and 17 characters.

    I don't know off the top of my head how long the Kombi vin numbers are

    Maybe you could take the vin to the RTA.
     
  7. saabman

    saabman Well-Known Member

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    There is a site irego.com.au that claim they can provide details of pre 1989 cars - for a fee $9.90
     
  8. Grantus

    Grantus Well-Known Member

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    It is a sad situation indeed.

    I can only imagine my dissappointment, if someone turned up wanting his stolen single cab back, after what I put into it. :(

    So good heads up Bernie. Not all stolen vehicles sold are late model vehicles, as we assume, and do as many pre-purchase checks as possible, before parting with your money.
     
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  9. Wayne murray

    Wayne murray Well-Known Member

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    I took my current DC numbers to the police station because the RTA wouldn't check the numbers until I was going to register the vehicleo_O. The officer said he would check it for me but said others might not.
    There is also a web site PPRS that is a government site to check vehicles as well for a fee.
    I did do a revs check before I brought it but once I seen the car the chassis number area had been changed due to a accident requiring replacement .
     
  10. grumble

    grumble Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately the different states do not communicate- an example of this is that I sold my deceased father in law's Magna to a bloke from QLD who needed a car to go home after coming down to attend a funeral ( apparently he stayed on for the wake and a bit more and his lift went home) I filled out the bill of sale on the RAT form and took it in,a couple of months later i received a trafffic violation which I took to the RAT who told me to contact QLD transport as the states do not work together so I did and gave a statutory declaration,then I received another violation for another offence. Bugger me they don't read any correspondence so I just ignored it but my wife sent papers and stat decs etc and eventually i think the vehicle sank in the sands of Fraser Island or somewhere innocuous.with the driver who happened to be .........., but they didn't contact me again and I didn't care.
    Moral of story "Don't trust no one -particularly Govt Departments'
     
  11. Grantus

    Grantus Well-Known Member

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    And wouldn't it be the ideal solution, (banging on again about my personal gripe), if all of Australia, had a stolen national register, and also recognised a national roadworthy certificate, and engineering certificate supplied by a seller in the state the vehicle is currently registered in, to be valid in any other state for registration, for the new buyer. :rolleyes:

    Instead of the money grabbing requests each state has with a new arrival...:mad:
     
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  12. KahunaKombi

    KahunaKombi Super Moderator Staff Member

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    May have been an insurnace job - I'd expect if it was insured when stolen a claim would have been made and rights of ownership claim once payment made reverted to Insurance company and if so they may just be easier to deal with :rolleyes:
     
  13. saabman

    saabman Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely I paid a small fortune to have a new seat fitted by an approved installer in the ACT in my T4 moved to NSW "sorry you'll have to get an engineers certificate now " :mad:

    I was worried about the beetle I got for Nat as all I had was the receipt from the guy I bought it from - thankfully all, was well.

    It would be all MUCH better if people just didn take things that weren't theirs :)
     
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  14. 68BUS

    68BUS Well-Known Member

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    The way I checked my three busses was paid for an online check then took that to both QLD transport and the police station. Because I had gone to the effort of paying for a report both were more than happy to run the number through their systems too.
    Once again - Awesome service from my local police.
     
  15. saabman

    saabman Well-Known Member

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    I got an update on the saga recently.

    The new owner and original owner came to some arrangement and all is well.

    She is a beauty to drive :)
     
  16. cbus

    cbus Well-Known Member

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    Nice outcome :cool:
    Thanks for update.
     
  17. vwkj87

    vwkj87 Active Member

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    So I just bought another kombi off ebay, now I'm terrified thanks to this thread lol.

    So just to confirm, in Queensland, how do I check a vehicle that was built before Jan 1, 1989?
     
  18. oldman

    oldman Super Moderator Staff Member

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    See Brad's post #14 above......68BUS.
    Cheers,
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  19. vwkj87

    vwkj87 Active Member

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    But how do you can an online check on an unregistered pre-1989 vehicle?
     
  20. oldman

    oldman Super Moderator Staff Member

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    First time you've mentioned that it's unregistered......o_O
    Do you have any friends that wear blue uniforms,,,?
    Cheers,
    Mark
     

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