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Time to remove Windscreen and deal with the rust

Discussion in 'T3 & T4 Tech Help Clinic' started by johnvw, Aug 27, 2019.

  1. johnvw

    johnvw Member

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    I have been putting this task off for too long.. it's time to remove my windscreen and deal with the rust. I must admit, not having removed a windscreen before, I am a bit nervous. I have my replacement rubber seal at the ready, so I plan to cut the old seal and see how bad the rust is.. any advice regarding the removal the windscreen safely would be appreciated. Once the windscreen is out I'll post some pictures of the rust.
    Rust.jpg Rust2.jpg
     
  2. Grantus

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    I may have time John, to drop by with a glass sucker and sharp knife, and lend a hand...... :rolleyes:

    Cant do it between 8 - 23 Sept, as I’ll be away, but before or after is fine. Let me know if you want a hand. ;)
     
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    @Grantus where did you get your glass sucker thing from? I have to take most of the glass outta my second T3 for rust repairs and a handle on the glass would make it heaps easier!
     
  4. johnvw

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    Hey Grant, a helping hand would be great.
    I am working afternoon shift at the moment, so any time before lunch is fine with me.... pick a day :)
     
  5. Luckyphil

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    Bunnings have them about $10ea
     
  6. grumble

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    A couple of screwdrivers, 2 big feet to spread the pressure and work your way along the screen from the middle at the bottom carefully to the corners equally and then up the sides around the next corner and by that stage it should pop out (have someone ready to catch it). A lot of screens, front and rear, side windows over 50 odd years coupled with a bit of good luck. Be very careful with laminated screens with star chips or cracks, cut the rubber and replace the screen.
     
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  7. Grantus

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    I bought mine from EBay Chris, many years ago, and would be happy to lend it you........ but as Phil has pointed out, the postage both ways, would cost way more than you just buying one new. ;)

    John,

    Friday could work for me. I’ve got a 1pm(ish) appointment southside, ..... so around 11am? It won’t take long........ :rolleyes:

    Thursday’s weather looks like a “stay at home” day...;)
     
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  8. Grantus

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    Thanks Les,

    I intend to cut the rubber away on this one, and then just lift it out. ;)

    Have wasted one laminated screen with minor star chips, than didn’t cope with the “2 big feet”, without the rubber cut away. :(
     
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  9. johnvw

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    Grant.. Friday would be great.. see you at 11ish.
     
  10. grumble

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    Probably a good idea with the rust in the aperture. :)
     
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    Hadn’t even though to look there...and I’m in there 10 times a week lol
    Thanks for the offer @Grantus :) think buying a couple is probably the better option :)
     
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  12. Grantus

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    All good...... have the kettle on! ;)
     
  13. johnvw

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    Well, we got the windscreen out... at first I thought it didn't look too bad.. but after Grant left I had a better look and poke with a screwdriver.. :eek:
    a few holes started to appear. Looks like I'll need to visit a professional to discuss my options.. :(
    With Windscreen out.jpg With Windscreen out2.jpg With Windscreen out3.jpg
     
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  14. johnvw

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    Wondering if I'll need to replace the upper front nose panel ..
    I suppose that will depend upon advice from a panel beater ?
    Anybody had to deal with similar rust around their windscreen?
    A quick look on JustKampers, I notice a replacement panel..
    Front Panel JK.png
     
  15. Luckyphil

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    You dont need that panel. Those holes can easily be welded up
     
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  16. johnvw

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    Cool..
     
  17. David H

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    Easy bit of grind, cut & weld in a new piece of metal for a pro beater & prob cheaper too.
    Cheers
     
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  18. Grantus

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    Have a chat to your mechanic, to see if he can recommend someone to repair the rusty bits.
     
  19. Josht3

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    I need to get around to doing this, how did it go? Any tips?
    I don’t even know how much rust repairs cost, I think mine is similar to yours from what I can see
     
  20. cbus

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    As long as it is same as John's it's easy and straightfoward.
    The rust has developed from outside or between rubber and outside of skin.
    This means there should be limited rust on the underneath or internaly.
    But check regardless as water may have been getting thru.
    Treat inside with rust converter and spray can of tectyl 506 if more than very light rust or if near electrics just use lanolin spray.
    Obviously substantial rust will need removing and welding as per windscreen area.

    Cut all rust out in sections , check and spray internaly for any light rust, weld in clean metal patch ( zincanneal ,1 or 1.2mm) has been primed with copper weld thru primer, clean up welds.
    Important to use a 2 Pac primer to ensure water resistance in future then topcoat. 2 Pac best.
    Any bog is over a primer then primed again before topcoat.
    Treat and rustproof welds on the underside .
     
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