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Van won’t start but can push start very easy

Discussion in 'Engine & Transmission' started by Jason Smith, Sep 9, 2018.

  1. Jason Smith

    Jason Smith Member

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    Hi team. Here we go again.
    Van got serviced the other day. No dramas. Parked her up and went to start her this morning and no go. BUT I can push start her very easily. The below is what I have done.
    -tried to jump start no go
    -battery is 12.6v and when engine running 14.4v
    -when key is on all lights and stereo work fine

    When I turn key on fully to start engine I get nothing. Just a small noise but not a clicking noise etc.

    Any ideas? I am planning to go away Tuesday but this might be on hold.

    Please help me
     
  2. melissa

    melissa Administrator Staff Member

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    Ignition switch?
     
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  3. Jason Smith

    Jason Smith Member

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    Wouldn’t even know where to look to be honest. Any help would be great.
     
  4. oldman

    oldman Super Moderator Staff Member

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    x2 for the ignition switch.....it’s a cheap part that is often over looked.
    It’s a plastic block that your ignition key slides into.
    You can pull the ignition wiring loom/socket straight down, out of the ignition area.
    Grab a new ignition switch, plug the loom into it and try to start it . You won’t need a key, a flat blade screwdriver will do it....BUT remember that your steering lock will still be locked.....you’ll need to put the key in as usual to disengage the lock.
    Replacement/install of the ignition switch is covered in a Sticky here
    http://forums.kombiclub.com/threads/steering-column-switch-inc-ignition-switch-repairs-101.17609/
    Easy enough to do yourself. I’ve done mine and my son’s.
    Cheers,
    Mark
     
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  5. Barry

    Barry Well-Known Member

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    Jason
    Melissa's answer is probably right. It would most likely be the switch or starter motor. Especially if you can push start it.

    Not sure how we can help if you "don't know where to look"

    What are you after?
    Are you wanting to fix yourself or take it to someone?
     
  6. Jason Smith

    Jason Smith Member

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    Thanks guys. Now I know where to look I will try and locate the switch. Fingers crossed I can find it and swap tomorrow. Is there a way by looking at it if the switch is faulty?
     
  7. Barry

    Barry Well-Known Member

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    You need to test it with a multimeter.

    Your problem will most likely one of 2 things

    1 you are not getting power to the solenoid on your starter

    2 your solenoid is faulty

    I would not recommend changing things by just looking at them
     
  8. cbus

    cbus Well-Known Member

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    Do you have a multimeter?
     
  9. oldman

    oldman Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Usually looks discoloured due to overheating/resistance.....
    Often caused by folks using higher wattage headlights overloading the circuit...
    Cheers,
    Mark
     
  10. Jason Smith

    Jason Smith Member

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    Yep got a multimeter
     
  11. oldman

    oldman Super Moderator Staff Member

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    This is one of those things that can be determined very quickly by unplugging from the old/installed switch and plugging into a new replacement. Everyone should have a spare ignition switch.....they are the cause of many misdirected electrical fault analysis.....it really is a 60 second check.
    Cheers,
    Mark
     
  12. Jason Smith

    Jason Smith Member

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    Hi have dislodges the wires and can see the switch which is white with I think four connections? Do I grab this and dislodge ?
     
  13. oldman

    oldman Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Wiring loom will have a female plug on the end....this is what disconnects from the ignition switch.
     
  14. Jason Smith

    Jason Smith Member

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    Yep that has been disconnected and has left switch exposed
     
  15. oldman

    oldman Super Moderator Staff Member

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    You need to read the link I posted if you want to replace the ignition switch itself permanently.
    Cheers,
    Mark
     
  16. Jason Smith

    Jason Smith Member

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    No worries I will try and find link. Would be great if changing the ignition switch is easy and fixes the problem. Might be able to finally getaway for a few nights in the old girl
     
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  17. oldman

    oldman Super Moderator Staff Member

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    If you have a replacement switch, it’ll plug straight onto the loom you have now disconnected.
    You cannot remove the ignition switch easily......read the thread !
    Cheers,
    Mark
     
  18. oldman

    oldman Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I included the link in a post above......click on it and you’ll be redirected straight to it...
    Cheers,
    Mark
     
  19. cbus

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    To check another way.
    Pull spade connection off starter solenoid. This is the switching current wire from ign switch.
    Plug pos lead of multimeter into the female connection and neg lead onto a clean bit of bare metal on car body to act as earth.
    Have someone turn ign key to ' start'.
    You should see a voltage over 11v .

    This means switch is ok.

    If nothing. Ensure you have a good earth connection by putting pos lead of multi on the bolt on starter that carries all the big wires. It is positive from battery.
     
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  20. Jason Smith

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    Thanks everyone. Due to my limited tools and time restraints I will get it looked at tomorrow hopefully. Appreciate all responses.
     

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